weight limits?

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Tonyd32, Dec 8, 2015.

  1. PaganDevil

    PaganDevil Light Load Member

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    Ah, didn't realize that this forum was a criticism "safe zone" and that stating that things drivers should know should have been covered in school/orientation/training. I'll only criticize those nasty evil megas and bottom feeder companies for not having adequate training and forcing these poor drivers (who can't deal with being criticized) onto internet forums to find out things they should have already learned, and of course those evil companies have no one at all these drivers can call to ask questions. Bad bad company.
    Read the above with heavy sarcasm.
     
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  3. Bob Dobalina

    Bob Dobalina Road Train Member

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    Will do, driver. Every time I think of responding with sarcasm, I ask myself: Is this helpful? Am I trying to boost my ego by making fun of someone else's ignorance? Is this just a manifestation of anger I have for some reason? Is it my time of the month?

    Have a nice day.
     
  4. tinytim

    tinytim Road Train Member

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    Because you're a responsible person who takes their job seriously?
    It's expected that you don't have too much weight on any axle group. There's many threads about this. The basics have already been posted in this thread but without a little more info. about what kind of set up you have we can't tell you specifics.

    It's your job to know the limits of both your equipment and the roads you're travelling.
     
  5. GasHauler

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    It's a sad day when a new drivers are forced underground to find information. They stay behind waiting for someone else to ask the questions because they do not want to be ridiculed. Most drivers here with experience will do what is expected and teach and pass down information that driver may have. We know it's our job to continue to teach just as we know it's the drivers job to learn. Any driver that believes they know it all is no driver to me. In fact, I consider those types as hazardous. So as far as I'm concerned this type of behavior needs to be stopped and it does not take any more energy to answer a simple question than it does to criticize.

    I'm sorry if I came off too strong but I would rather have someone ask me a question than for someone to say avoid that driver because he knows it all. It has never happen to me because I came out of the military and there you teach the younger to do your job as I was taught to learn the job above me. If any one feels they can not ask this site a question Please PM me and I promise I'll never ridicule anyone for asking a question. And if I do not know the answer I will tell you that. But I'll give you where to find the answer and we'll both search for it.
     
  6. Accidental Trucker

    Accidental Trucker Road Train Member

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    The problem is that your world is too small. I never had a trainer. I asked anyone I could if I didn't have the information. DOT, scale masters, customs officers, and drivers. The only ones that were ever sarcastic or condescending were drivers........

    Second, trainers work for the company. If the company hauls nothing but toilet paper or empty cans to the cannery, there is absolutely no need to train a new driver on weights. Same with some bulk operations. No need to scale, because you can't be over if you tried.

    We never have our drivers scale, because our loads simply can't run over gross, and we run at 86,000 every trip. If I train a driver for our operation, weights only come up as far as going up hill and down hill.
     
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  7. mountaingote

    mountaingote Road Train Member

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    I think you're right, Bob. You can't even ask what time it is without being ridiculed
     
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  8. KMac

    KMac Road Train Member

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    Good information but s couple of errors.

    First, the PSP is your CSA score, the only points that can be added to that are as a result of an inspection. Just a citation without an accompanying inspection will not show.

    Also, and I am not 100% sure, but I thought I had heard overweight is not one of the BASIC's so it would go on there. I could be wrong on that though.

    Also almost every State allows an extra 400 lbs if your truck has an APU, but it needs to be carried on the drives, making the limit there 34,400 with an APU.

    Also I believe only Indiana and Mississippi limit the steers to 12k, many do not have a set limit, some are up to 20k, and some are done by so many lbs per inch, in any case you can not be above the tires rated weight.
     
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  9. mountaingote

    mountaingote Road Train Member

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    The 12k steer axle 'myth' came about because 34 on drives and 34 on trailer only leaves room for 12 up front. I've seen guys have a goat about 12300 when they're only 78500 gross
     
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  10. ttyson

    ttyson Medium Load Member

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    you can go 12,500 on the steers in calif..
     
  11. supersnackbar

    supersnackbar Road Train Member

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    Actually Kmac hit it...some states say 20k or equipment limits...others like MO say equipment limits...the average fleet company truck my have an axle limit of 12-13000, but the company only puts tires rated for 6175 each on the steer axle...which limits it to 12350.

    People complain left and right about todays companies not training, or todays drivers can't drive...yet when an inexperienced driver actually has the common sense to ask, to learn, to try to be a better driver, some drivers dog pile on him...to me, those dog pile drivers are no better than the trainer that doesn't teach their trainee's properly. The OP asked a question, and asked for our assistance...don't be a dog pile, or perhaps he may not ask the next time and won't learn a darn thing, and won't be any better than he is today.
     
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