I'm not a driver yet but how does the 34 hour reset work? When you have to take it you cant drive your truck at all? Lets say you know you ran out of hours and you are parked at Walmart and you found somewhere else to go like 5 miles away can you drive there or absolutely no? When your due for a 34 hour reset you literally can not move that truck period?
The 34 reset
Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by 1278PA, Jan 2, 2016.
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Depends on the company and how they have the eLogs set up. If they have a "line 5" (driving - off duty) that's an option. If no line 5, sometime you can inform safety of the situation and that can edit the log to preserve the break afterwards. Either way, this should be used minimally and should always start and stop the drive time at the same location (return to original point)
You will find the "need" for a restart will not happen very often unless you're running your wheels off 10-11 hours a day, 6-7 days a week. Most new guys at the megas will never run like this [for long]Longarm Thanks this. -
Ok so you pretty much have to plan out ahead of time where you want to park for the 34?
I'm kinda confused I thought a 34 hour happens after you drive a total of 70 hours and it's a law? If so why do you say the need for a restart will not happen often? -
Most companies aren't going to plan you on trips that run your full 11/14 every day, especially since many companies are moving towards shorter, more regional trips.
You'll almost always have time left over each day and that rolls over into the next day/end of week hours. You can run a recap with your available hours after the 8th day if you haven't burned up your 70 by then. You get back the hours from the 8th day back as that day drops off and it's a perpetual rolling clock that adds those 8th day hours back to your clock. Some guys almost never reset unless they just have a load with a lot of time on it that allows it. you can work 8.75hrs a day and never reset/recap and always have hours available.
I get mine on the weekends. I work for a place that runs the wheels off of us during the week then home every weekend. For true OTR out weeks at a time guys a lot of them run the recap and rarely ever reset unless the load has time to.
Yes, plan well for where you reset if you do. Recent changes in the Qualcomm system don't allow any leeway for moving the truck and the peoplenet system only has about a mile leeway built into it to move the truck. It's setup differently by company but they're all pretty similar.
The rules for using line 5 if available are pretty restrictive. It's not something to be used to find a better parking spot because you planned poorly.dancecanyon and Longarm Thank this. -
And the 34 hour restart is optional, there is nothing saying you have to take one. It's there for drivers convenience. Many years ago, it didn't exist. I run OTR and use it as often as I can. In fact, I just recently started with my current company just before Thanksgiving. I've been here 7 weeks, and this weekend is my 8th 34...but that is because of a combination the normal holiday season freight slowdown, and me getting use to a new system. As an OTR driver, I hate running recap hours, I prefer to run my 70 out as fast as possible, get the miles 'in the bank', then chill, shop, or do laundry etc on a 34. My company's elog doesn't have a line 5 for personal conveyance driving, but it has a 'skip' option when the system tries to switch you to drive time once you are moving. If you're on a 34 and are using the truck to go eat or shop, you're allowed to 'skip' changing duty status. They watch, and if you abuse it to cheat your log, they can remove that option from your truck...
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I have the JJ Keller elog and when I click "Off Duty" a box appears that you can check that says "Off Duty Driving-Personal Conveyance".
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When OTR on e-logs I sometimes went a month or more without taking a reset. Not all days are full of driving. You may start your day with a pretrip inspection, which starts your 14 hour clock, drive to a customer and sit for hours off duty waiting to get loaded. By the time you pull out you only have a couple of hours left on your 14 (if you are lucky) and you end your day having only used a few hours of your 70 hour clock.
Other days, especially on multiday runs, you have nothing to do but drive. Then the only thing to prevent you driving a total of 11 hours is finding a place to park safely as near as possible to 11 hours. -
Ok thanks the whole hours/clock thing is still somewhat confusing to me but i will learn that when i go to the school. I just thought it was a simple thing you have an alloted time of 70 hours a week to drive and when that runs out you have to reset for 34 hours. I didn't know hours roll over to the next day if you didn't use them all. So if you are allowed to drive 11 hours a day and use 8 of them the next day you will have 14 hours to drive?
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No, you're still under the 14/11 rule. With a 30 min break. What it may let you do is not take a 34 hr break. I'll let someone else explain it better.
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70 hours total to work (not drive) in an 8 day period. It is a window of time that keeps moving forward every day, so what you worked prior to that drops off and that time is gained back. The 34 is just a recent thing meant to easily wipe the slate clean. It is perfect for drivers who are home on the weekends.
Drivers used to have to calculate the 8 days worth of hours every day (which is the "recap" people here are referring to). There is a separate page in a paper log book that makes it easy to see how many hours are gained every day. E-logs just show you how much time you have left on each clock (drive, on-duty, and 70/ 8 ).
Hours don't "roll over". You don't get credit tomorrow for what you didn't use today. After 10 hours off-duty or in the sleeper, you get 11 fresh hours to drive in a fresh 14-hour workday, provided you won't go over your 70 hours.JRay Thanks this.
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