A concern about getting caught overweight at a weigh station

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by NoobiDriver, Mar 13, 2016.

  1. truckon

    truckon Swamp Thing

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    Thats null and void if his tires aren't rated for the weight.
     
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  3. dca

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    I have mine all the way forward, I can go up to 12,500 on the steers it rarely reaches 12,400 but frequently over 12.

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  4. truckon

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    @the OP. You are weighing without Setting your brakes. Correct?
     
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  5. gokiddogo

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    I am thinking of it as how the weight gets distributed per length of trailer.
    steer (a) + drives (b) will pretty well always = the same amount, regardless of 5th wheel position.
    So if the pin is right on the nose (like one old trailer my previous employer had) you could move more % to your drives and would need to go farther forward on your 5th wheel to get the weight upfront (if you had a light up front tractor)
     
  6. gokiddogo

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    I am well aware of that. Let's try to complicate this matter as much as possible for the OP.

    OP, what tyres are you running, and what size?
     
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  7. NoobiDriver

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  8. blairandgretchen

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    This will be on A16 in your Road Atlas.

    As you can see, it varies state to state from 12,000 to 22,000+ lbs, and tire rating. Some are 'NS' - not specified.

    AR IN MS WI, are the only 3 at 12, 12, 12 and 13 respectively.

    The misconception of 12,000 as an across the board rule I can only gather comes from the subtraction of 34 and 34 from 80.

    But to answer your real concern without breaking down the states and weights, I don't THINK overweight tickets appear on CSA. But I'm with you, I'd rather not have the interaction to begin with.

    Hope this helps.



    Sorry - first column on left is what we're looking at here, "Steer axle ".



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  9. Brandonpdx

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    Okay I'll bite: why does setting the brakes make a difference?

    Genuine mystery I guess. 5th wheel too far forward would be the obvious culprit. They usually allow 1,000 lbs to be moved back and forth if you slide it all the way up or back. Being that this guy is a noob I wonder if he knows what he's looking at. You set the trailer brakes, released the tractor brakes, released the 5 wheel slide, and drove the truck forward as far as it would go right?
     
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  10. NoobiDriver

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    For clarity, the tractor is so far away from the trailer that the front tires on the drive axle is out in front of the trailer. The pins are at the very last 2 holes in the 5th wheel. I can't move the tractor any further AWAY from the trailer. BEFORE this problem started to occur, I had the trailer set more underneath the trailer to where the front tires of the drives were lined up perfectly with the front of the trailer and all axles would always weight out just fine, including the steers(always under 12,000).

    My understanding is that when sliding the 5th wheel, if you're pulling the tractor away from underneath the trailer then it takes the trailer's weight off the tractor(and thus the steers) and if you're reversing to go more so underneath the trailer then you're putting more of the trailer's weight unto the tractor(and thus the steers).
     
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  11. NoobiDriver

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    I've done it both ways. Sometimes I weigh without setting my brakes. Sometimes I do. Since this problem started to occur about 2 and a half weeks ago, it hasn't mattered as to the weight of the steers.
     
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