Good morning,
I have been here less than a full 24 hours and I have read through enough threads to know that in some instances, those who are or will be new to trucking, are getting the wrong information. Now, to be honest, some of the threads are spot on, and there is no way to get around that.
Let me qualify myself first. I have been in the trucking industry as a driver for about 24 years. I have been a company driver, lease driver, driver trainer, but never a full owner operator. Why? I just never really did it.
I've driven for Watkins Motor Lines, which was bought out by Fed Ex, and a few other companies, so I have been around the industry. As a kid, I was the son of a father and mother who were truckers. Dad was over the road with JB Hunt and mom was a local driver in West Virginia, hauling stone and other materials in a dump truck.
So you want to be a driver and live the lifestyle of a over the road trucker. Maybe you used to watch trucks go down the road as a kid and said I want to do that, or your out of work and desperate to just get a job because where you live is such a small town, that the entire town has taken up all the good jobs.
First, if you think this is a get rich opportunity or your just going to hold onto a steering will and not have to work, then reconsider, because this is one of the hardest things, anyone will do.
Lets talk about money. Until you have a year under your belt, meaning a full year, driving in all weather conditions, you will not see the high side of cpm, or cents per mile. Very few will pay you any real money, until that time. There are a few exceptions but you will have to be one of those drivers, living on the road for the most part. Why? because you are paid by the mile and if the truck is not moving, your not generating cents per mile or income.
The magic number for miles has always been 3,000 miles. It has been said that if you can run 3,000 miles per week, your doing okay and anything above that is considered doing well, but here is the thing, if your not doing that every week, your income will be up and down like a roller coaster. This is why recruiters talk in averages, because they don't want someone to come back and say to them, that I was promised X amount of miles.
Most new drivers go through carrier based schools because the upside is a guaranteed job at the end, but you pay the price in terms of sometimes low miles each week or if your good and you happen to get some decent miles, your pay will suffer because your cents per mile is low. Most of the training companies will pay between about .26 to .30 cents per mile, and if you do the math, on the front end, it seems like a pretty good check but when you deduct carrier truck school loan, other things you agreed to have taken out of your check, taxes, etc, your probably not going to see a big paycheck. Again, there are exceptions, so you kinda have to hope for the best.
I always tell new people, don't use the high numbers as a guide, use the low numbers. Example, if new drivers are said to be getting 2400 to 2800 miles per week, go by the lowest number, because until you prove yourself, you may not see the higher number of miles.
Bottom line is that you may not make much more money than your making now at your present job, however, if your trying to better your and/or your families future, your going to have to pay some dues and accept that your income may suffer before it will get better.
It has been said that most of the training companies or mega's as they are referred to get a government stipend for each person that goes through the training program. While this may be true, it does not really affect you one way of the other. You can't do anything to stop it, so why worry about it???
The purpose of being a student driver, I hate the word trainee, is to learn how to drive a truck and do it safely. That should be where your focus is at, while in student status. Read some of the posts, your will often wonder how any of these complainers even got the truck in gear to start with.
I always say to people, do your research and base your decision off what yo are feeling is the best move for you. Read the negative comments but don't allow those to be the deciding factor. People have a god given right to voice their opinions, complain and be negative, but not everyone is going to have issues.
When you as a person gets off track by being upset and complaining and doing the why, why, why thing, then you lose focus and you become dangerous to cars, other trucks and people.
Now lets talk about the various companies. I may upset a lot of people here that will say that CRST for example is a bad company, run the other way, etc. Newsflash, they say the same about CR England,
Schneider, FFE, etc.
If you look at the dates on a good portion of these threads here, they are from years ago. Companies change the way they do business, operate differently, have different people working there. So the point is that you can't in 2016 go by what happened in 2008, 2010.
Use your own judgement as to what you believe and don't believe. Good luck to everyone.
This is For The Newbies to Trucking, My Take
Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by JJDrivesOTR, Jul 16, 2016.
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Yes the money for entry level truckers is low but in comparison to where a lot of these guys come from it's not bad. If you work for eight dollars an hour you'd have to drive just 1,000 miles a week to make what that minimum wage job pays for forty hours. That's two days of driving at 30 cpm.
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I've been a regional driver for a year now and what I've come to find is; u can't make consistent decent miles and get home every weekend doing "irregular route"
I work for a mega of sorts, or so they lik to fashion themselves as. But I've got a solid reputation with operations and my DM and I have a great relationship. I hardly complain and he does what he can to keep me rolling and get home. I know this because I had a DM before him that hated my guts and the difference is night and day
Over a 5/6 day week I probably get 2200 miles. I've called small 100-200 truck outfits around me and they say I'll get 1800-2200 miles a week average, getting home weekly.
Imo decent miles only come when u stay out 3+ weeks. Or find some needle in a haystack, don't advertise, gotta know someone on the inside, type job -
The object lesson for the noobulicious drivers is to do their diligence and do the research. Read all can bout the carrier, talk to other drivers and formulate a well ballanced decision. Write down a few notes and keep them. The good and the bad. Don't just rely on a recruiters talking points from some recruiter or some company driver fanboy to sway you.
Look at the turn over rate, the freight, pay and benefits. Look how they treat their drivers. Home time. Freight lanes. How much they get delayed at shippers/receivers. Safety rating. Look at everything. Do they try to push you into a fleece purchase? If so don't go. Period. -
I forgot the question. Can we start over?
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As part of my companies three week training program, I was out for one week with a trainer, and he said something I've thought about a lot. He said there are basically two types of drivers; those that love driving and those that love money.
If I can be honest, I really love driving. If I never make a six figure income as a driver, if I never hit a million miles, if I never tick off hitting each of the lower 48 states, I'll be fine.
I've spent most of my life working in office environments, which are normally 8 hour days. Mostly, if you see someone working an hour overtime, they are usually a real go-getter, or their working on a specific project. You talk to a trucker about working a 9 hour day and they'll chide you for being a slacker. Seriously, this mentality that you only get really good income from working 10, 12 or 14+ hour days, day after day and week over week is crazy. And people wonder why fatigue is such an issue.
I would argue that most people are used to compartmentalizing their lives into basically two factions: work time and non-work time.
Trucking completely obliterates that wall between those two. Since I’ve started in trucking, I’ve been trying to fit this job into that paradigm, and it just doesn’t work. Trucking devours your life in ways I’ve never experienced before.
That's the real take on trucking that newbies need to know about.
I used to go to bookstores. I used to go to the movies, and be able to get drive-thru Starbucks. I had hobbies that used to be a huge part of my life. Please understand, I hated my last office job, but I’ll give it this one thing; the hours were pretty great. I had weekends and holidays off, and it rarely encroached on my non-work time.
If I get less miles to be home with my wife and my children on a regular basis, I'm good. Quality of life is something just as important as the quality of my bank account. -
Respect goes out to all of you with families. I can't imagine having a family and doing otr stuff. I am here, cause I like holding that steer wheel and just be away from all that pressure at home. Even visiting my best friend on the 4th was enough for at least couple of months. I never found this job hard except finding the right hole haha So if you scared, don't be, its like driving to work on Monday morning, except that work is endless
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