Idling an emissions truck?

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  1. ReeferOhio

    ReeferOhio Medium Load Member

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    So I'm buying my first emissions truck. The truck is a 2013 Mack with an MP8 445hp. What's the actual scoop on idling the truck for over night? I'm going to have a wabasto heater installed. My question to everyone is I see some companies with APU's and a lot with out. I'm in the flatbed industry and TMC does not have APU's and Melton does. Does TMC just idle the trucks? Is that harmful to the DPF? I'm not interested in your opinion on emissions, I've heard that story over and over. Thanks!
     
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  3. dngrous_dime

    dngrous_dime Road Train Member

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    Idling any truck will produce excessive soot in the exhaust, which is the (P)articulate in DPF. Since you're going to own the truck, I would suggest a small generator, as well as the Webasto.
     
  4. Dna Mach

    Dna Mach Road Train Member

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    The DPF is going need to be cleaned every 250,000 miles or so, give or take several thousand miles depending on idling.
     
  5. SAdriver

    SAdriver Light Load Member

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    There is another side effect that is more immediate. If you idle that truck all night you increase the chance of having to do a parked regen in the morning. Had that happen to me one day 30 minutes from receiver. Stopped for the day, idled because Montana stopped having nice 60's and dropped to 30's and snow. Idled all night and next morning the truck was demanding a 10% parked regen that lasted 2 hours.
     
  6. Heavyd

    Heavyd Road Train Member

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    Idle your truck the same as any other, just increase the idle speed to 900 or 1000 or so. Idling at 6-700 will hurt the engine. The other issue is how your truck was ordered. It may have anti idling with idle shutdown programmed in if it is certified for use in CA. In that case, all you get is 5 to 15 mins of idling before it shuts down.
     
  7. uncleal13

    uncleal13 Road Train Member

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    I have used bunk and engine heaters for years. I use Webasto's currently. My last truck was a 2013 Western Star DD15. In three years it only idled overnight eight times as it was colder than -30 , warmer than that I just shut off the truck. Never had a problem starting it.
    All eight of those nights it did a parked regen about four or five in the morning. In three years that was the only parked regens it ever did.
    I set the idle to 1,000 rpm those nights.
    So yes, over night idling is not a good thing for them.
     
  8. ReeferOhio

    ReeferOhio Medium Load Member

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    Thank you, all great advice. Sounds like I'm on the right path with the Wabasto heater.
     
  9. Brandt

    Brandt Road Train Member

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    I just got a new 2017 cascade, company truck. It has the Detroit Optimized Idle. That's were the truck will start engine for heat or a/c battery charging and oil temp. They claim it will do a parked regeneration automatically if needed from idling while parked.
     
  10. AModelCat

    AModelCat Road Train Member

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    Short answer: Never idle a diesel engine. Bump that sucker up to 1000-1200 RPM. Builds more heat so the diesel burns more complete and you don't wash the cylinder walls/dillute your engine oil.
     
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