Someone else may have asked, so sorry if this has already been answered. If you started late because the appt wasn't until later, how will you be out of hours in Canada? It certainly won't be due to 14 hour clock. And the times you are quoting don't make sense on their workday clock. If it is driving time you are short on, you would be short no matter what time they started on you.
Can this be done on time
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Once the 16 hour window closes you are toast. Arrive with plenty of time. May not pull even empty while claiming pc.
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Understand that, must have misunderstood where you got 14 hours off, then arrived for a 1030 appointment and 6 hours later you are put of hours.
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Are you heading to US after? If not split berth should take care of the 16. Canadian rules are so much better when it comes to the split.fargonaz Thanks this.
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I guess I need to put my example into exacting terms..
I started at regina with a delivery in Edmonton. About an 8 hour drive. It ends up taking me about 10 hours because I stopped for fuel and ran into some snow. I arrive on time and for my appointment and have now used 9.5 hours driving and 10 on duty. I am 30 minutes early so it's all good. They hold me there for 6 hours. Usually they are 3 to 4 at most. I would normally have legally been allowed to move from the delivery over to sherwood park flying j. I cannot leave my equipment at delivery once empty, they don't have a lot of extra space to begin with. I am at the end of my 16 hour window even while claiming sleeper time while unloading which I am not supposed to do in Canada. It is not allowed to pull an empty while claiming pc. I guess the solution is rather than hustle and complete the load in 4 shots it will have to be 5 shots.
In this case I planned it so I could do the load legally. The night at regina I stay a little more than 10 hours because if I show up early I am told to wait anyway. And with the usual 3 to 4 hour I face the same 6 hour dilemma and run against the 16 hour rule once again. If I had a crystal ball I could of seen today they will take longer so if I show up early the extra time early + longer than usual unload would of equalled at least an 8 hour break.
My point is the only real way to still efficiently use time is to schedule more than is needed and that is due to customers sometimes take longer than expected. So do we plan for what usually happens? Or take "safe" road (hos wise) and plan for worst case every time? If there was some exemption to allow a short innocent drive to a truck stop or rest area without fear of an inspector getting me days later I wouldn't have any issue. More or less all this elog is doing is shining the light on the little things we do get the job done. I am trying to follow the law but it looks like all its going to do is reduce productivity... -
That long at a receiver I'm taking a nap and logging sleeper. Anything over 2 in the berth stops the clock, but you know that.
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Or better yet, become a flatbedder and don't have to worry about driving all night. Less than 10% of my deliveries are made past 7pm
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Sorry, but the only time you stop the clock is if it's 8 hours consecutive SB or more. Of course, if you hit 10 then it's a reset.
Edit: Snap, just noticed Tiny is from the land of Santa and Penguins, otherwise called Canada. Not sure on yalls laws up there about stopping your duty clock so you are prolly right.tinytim Thanks this. -
I passed a flatbedder last night lol, he seemed way out of his element with the entire freeway chock full of reefers around him.
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Yeah I'm solar powered, after sun down in on battery power, they usually go till about 10pm then it's time to park it
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