Chinks in the armor

Discussion in 'ELD Forum | Questions, Answers and Reviews' started by Chasingthesky, Jul 18, 2017.

  1. UsualSuspect

    UsualSuspect Road Train Member

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    Not scared, but that is the point, neither would prevent it. They are both just recording what you note.
     
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  3. Studebaker Hawk

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    Imagine a world with no HOS regulation at all. Society recognized when trucking was in it's infancy in 1935 that some companies were forcing their drivers to drive well beyond human fatigue limits. And independent drivers in a financial bind were doing the same. The carnage was widespread.
    It would be no different today if there were no rules. Imperfect as they are it is preferable to a virtual free for all on the highway. Work to change the HOS rules, not complain about how they are recorded.
     
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  4. Pedigreed Bulldog

    Pedigreed Bulldog Road Train Member

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    Bad rules that are able to be massaged can be worked with reasonably. Bad rules plus strict enforcement brings about an intolerant working environment. "I've GOT to pass you, because I'm 1/2 mph faster and MY CLOCK IS TICKING" clashes with the "I don't give a rip if you're only 1/2 mph faster than me, I'm NOT backing out of it even for a second because MY CLOCK IS TICKING!" Gone is common courtesy, and right with it common sense. "I know I'm tired, but I can't stop for a quick power nap because MY CLOCK IS TICKING!"

    One thing I'm noticing is that I57 around here is really giving I70 in Terre Haute a run for its money. Every day, seems there are 2-3 wrecks involving semi trucks flipped over or rammed into one another. Hasn't always been the case, but seems to be getting worse as the ELD enforcement date draws near and more companies are making the switch. The frequency of truck wrecks is increasing quite rapidly, and makes me glad I don't spend much time on the interstate with the knuckleheads who can't do their job safely.
     
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  5. DL550CAT

    DL550CAT Road Train Member

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    How about two sets of rules. One for the DOT and another for the department of labor? One set to keep us from driving too long and one set to keep employers from enslaving drivers. The DOT rules would be very generous and we could keep the current rules as something employers can't push the driver past.
     
  6. DL550CAT

    DL550CAT Road Train Member

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    How about 16 hours a day, driving or working. If you hit 70 hrs in 6 days requires a 24 hr break hit 80 in 6 and that would require a 36 hr break. Easy and based on what the Good Lord said was best, work 6 and rest 1.
     
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  7. Chasingthesky

    Chasingthesky Heavy Load Member

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    Delay of electronic logging mandate gains more allies in Congress

    A bill introduced this week by Rep. Brian Babin, R-Texas, to delay the electronic logging mandate has picked up three co-sponsors. Babin is calling on truckers to hit the phones and encourage even more lawmakers to support this sensible bill.

    Babin introduced the bill in the House of Representatives on Tuesday, July 18, seeking a delay of the electronic logging mandate for two years. The bill, HR3282, is called the ELD Implementation Extension Act of 2017.

    As of Friday afternoon, Rep. Bill Posey, R-Fla.; Rep. Glenn Grothman, R-Wis., and Rep. Randy Weber, R-Texas, had all signed on as co-sponsors and more are expected.

    The Owner-Operator Independent Drivers Association issued a Call To Action this week encouraging its members to support the legislation.

    Land Line Magazine
     
  8. tucker

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    You are so right, let's get rid of every law and rule and let's all run around naked and amok and drink water with lead and arsenic in it.
     
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  9. tucker

    tucker Road Train Member

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    I've been out here a while, when only Werner had elogs and the 1/2 mile an hour faster truck passed back then too.
    Look at all the 90mph moms driving along, they aren't on elogs or a hurry, it's the way it is.
    The traffic has really changed in the last couple of years, plus last year brought us the Cubs winning the World Series, a mediocre horse won the Triple Crown and trump, a reality star being elected.
    It's like we're living out the last days of the Rapture, we're the dammed and it really doesn't matter
     
  10. Chasingthesky

    Chasingthesky Heavy Load Member

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    More Reps and organizations have added their support

    As of Wednesday, 13 co-sponsors had signed on in support of the bill. They are:

    • Rep. Rick W. Allen, R-Ga.
    • Rep.Glenn Grothman R-Wis.
    • Rep. Steve King, R-Iowa
    • Rep. Doug LaMalfa, R-Calif.
    • Rep. Frank D. Lucas, R-Okla.
    • Rep. Thomas Massie, R-Ky.
    • Rep. Ralph Norman, R-S.C.
    • Rep. Bill Posey, R-Fla.
    • Rep. Steve Stivers, R-Ohio
    • Rep. Mac Thornberry, R-Texas
    • Rep. Patrick J. Tiberi, R-Ohio
    • Rep. Randy K. Weber Sr., R-Texas
    • Rep. David Young, R-Iowa
    Outside the halls of Congress, industry stakeholders are signing on in support of the legislation. According to Babin’s staff, in addition to the Owner-Operator Independent Drivers Association, there are 16 more groups, associations and businesses backing the bill.

    Supporters include:

    • Agricultural Retailers Association
    • American Farm Bureau Federation
    • American Pyrotechnics Association
    • Associated Equipment Distributors
    • Lucas Oil
    • National Association of Small Trucking Companies
    • National Cattlemen’s Beef Association
    • National Cotton Council
    • National Grain and Feed Association
    • National Ground Water Association
    • National Hay Association
    • National Motorists Association
    • National Pork Producers Council
    • National Ready Mixed Concrete Association
    • Petroleum Marketers Association of America
    • Towing and Recovery Association of America
    Land Line Magazine
     
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  11. gokiddogo

    gokiddogo Road Train Member

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    Ok, rather than drive when I am awake and sleep when I am tired, I will start day 1, get as close to 11/14 as I dare, stop for the required 10 hours, and carry on day 2 to again try to maximize my available hours, giving no regard to the quality of rest I got. Repeat. Did the truck stop and if I am able to turn myself on and off according to what a government mandated computer says? Yes the truck stopped and *maybe* I got decent rest. Some days I will be awake for the bulk of my 10 hour break and I will continue on anyway. Safer? No. More legal? Yes. What is the goal again here??
     
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