what can a driver do if his boss says drive a truck that will not pass a dot inspection

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  1. Scout76

    Scout76 Bobtail Member

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    any advice? I don't mean thing's that a driver should fix like lights or a missing bolt here or there. I mean things like kingpin bolster plates that are bent to hell or rusted and cracked brake canister brackets, miss matched slack adjusters. The owner sends these trucks to a shop that will slap an annual inspection sticker on anything.
     
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  3. fuller

    fuller Light Load Member

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    Nothing. A driver holds the final responsibility as to the equipment he drives, and is held completely liable for any problems.

    In other parts of the world, the shipper/loader/employer can share this liability.

    In North America, it is not so.

    You refuse to work? You are most likely fired.

    Understand that the trucking industry contravenes EVERY labor law known to man...

    You have more protection working at Subway.
     
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  4. Chinatown

    Chinatown Road Train Member

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    That's your call; you did the pre-trip inspection and wrote up the discrepancies, then chose to drive the truck. If you didn't write up the discrepancies, you didn't do your job. Your boss will hang you out to dry. Do you think the boss will tell the authorities he knew all along the truck needs work, but told you to drive it anyway?
    Change companies.
     
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  5. scottied67

    scottied67 Road Train Member

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    A commercial driver's license is valued over $2 - $3 million dollars over a driver's career. Why would you risk that running defective equipment.... just asking.
     
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  6. DTP

    DTP Road Train Member

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    Tell him to F off...
     
  7. x1Heavy

    x1Heavy Road Train Member

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    One little word. No.

    You are the lawful agent of the company and as such you certify the truck is safe to operate. If you detect defects and cannot say this thing is safe to operate, DO NOT get in that thing and take off. Write a pretrip inspection report, turn into shop boss. Set up a number or something to call when that truck is fixed.

    Go away and get settled, it will be a while.

    If anyone gives a hard time to you repeat the word no. And show a copy of that Pre trip inspection report.

    If you are fired... document everything and keep the pretrip reports plus the green book that shows chapter and verse that makes YOU the responsible and liable for equiptment problems found in Pre trips to your unemployment office. Write down date, time to minute, name names who said what, when did etc.

    In my later years I had absolutely no trouble saying the rig is busted find a shop and fix it. They scream about the destroyed appointment and delivery sometimes a tow. Let em scream.

    However in my early days, they will threaten to scourage you, burn your family and other unspeakable things to find the one button that makes you jump into the rig and take off, defects and all. This is where most tenderfooted newbies fail. And pay and pay and pay when DOT gets ahold of them. While the same company person sweet gravy talks the law into who me threats? haha.. not here. We are a law abiding company etc.

    That is all I have to say. If the equiptment is so bad and falling apart everywhere you look in a company yard, go home. Find another job with a better company. Employers cannot build a history on something you never did do on your first day in POS truck carriers inc? Did you?
     
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  8. REO6205

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    The truck won't pass a DOT inspection? What exactly is wrong with it?
    If it's just a marker light or something minor that you can fix yourself try to get it legal.
    If it's a safety item...brakes, tires, suspension, frame...don't pull it until it's fixed.
     
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  9. Grumppy

    Grumppy Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    Write up issues, address it with your supervisor &/or shop. If they refuse to fix it, dont drive it. If they attempt to take disciplinary action against you... ANY disciplinary action against you, call an attorney.
    Coercion
    I have done this many times with Waste Management. The down fall with this is, they down your truck for a month for repairs & give you the oldest most worn out, raggedest... but legal piece of crap on the yard. If you dont take it & perform your duties, they can fire you for that.

    Choose your battles & be prepared for any decision you make.
     
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  10. little cat 500

    little cat 500 Road Train Member

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    stop on a scale an have it DOT inspected
     
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  11. spyder7723

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    You'd be amazed by all the times I've had a driver tell me i needed to send a service truck out to fix a marker light before he could move. And not even dot required lights, but the extra chicken lights under the bumper or under the cab.

    I'd explain how it wasn't a safety issue and to get moving but if that didn't work me and another would hop in the pick up and head to his location and his employment would end right there on the spot. Find your own way home.
     
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