who is wrong in this? why?

The trucker is at fault. He didn’t want to slow down for a few seconds. Result created an accident. This was a fit of road rage.

They both likely were cited and will both probably share 50% liability.

This is the same as someone coming down a merging lane. You in right lane and your left lane clear and a truck keeps hammering down and you hold your lane. You both will share liability because you could have moved over.


Share the road. Be a professional. Don’t let emotions control your driving. Drive the truck and don’t let the truck drive you.

 

There is no point in asking that kind of question.

Cam videos are really bad at spotting mirrors back there behind the trailer.

Some of Scottie67's video being mounted on his hat maybe is the best. What he sees in the mirriors provide a very good 360 around the truck.

There are also certain things to someone like me who has been out there spending a life time fighting the NYC cross bronx and GWB traffic day and night where you just KNOW that when you see one come up on the right, there is another right behind that one. And if both are behind a slower semi flatbed being passed? So much the merrier. Line em up and pass on the right to get between the trucks.

That is where the woman is at fault. She knows #### well there aint enough room and even less to nothing at all. (As Mr Billy Rigger actually sped up.)

If I had lat and long with sufficient resolution on that video as some cameras stamp with, I can use at least 4 or 5 numbers to the right of the decimal point to determine rate of travel against a stop watch to plus or minus maybe 40 feet. You can pick a object that is sitting still, count it against the flatbed in front against the stop watch and if it's 60 mph, at 65 feet long it should work out to right about one second. If it's 80 mph then it's going to be less than that passing a stationary object at speed.

You also have roughly 740 to around 860 white lines to the mile on the interstate. Given a one second gap between the billy big rigger and the one second vehicle in front prior to the two vehicles shoehorning themselves in against a stop watch you can count the lines, divide by the mile and roughly guessimate vehicle speed to a range. (And no I aint running out into traffic with a yard stick to see how long those lines are either...)

All sorts of ways to examine a video.

I already knew there is going to be number two car on the right. When people pass a truck on left going fast already on right, they are already impatient. And bingo there they go just like expected. The physical language displayed by car number two tells me a mind debating can I fit in there? Or should I? Or maybe I can scare him off... nope. nope and nope.

I tend to be pretty catholic (Equally to all parties) when handing out verdicts of this kind. It takes two or more to dance. And you might not like what comes out of it.

 

Your conclusion nails it - subject dead - close the discussion as we're going around in circles here.

 

if you are referring to an entrance ramp off an exit - you are incorrect. there is no shared liability. courtesy is not law and shall not be confused as such.

 

This is absolutely 100% false. Merging traffic is required to merge safely as close to highway speeds as possible. You are under no obligation, legal or moral, to change lanes for merging traffic. If you choose to do so, it is nothing more than a courtesy and it certainly doesn’t have anything to do with being a professional. The “professional” thing to do would be to maintain your lane and your speed, slow down slightly if necessary, but do not move into the left lane where you risk side swiping another car, (which would be 100% your fault), or slowing down the passing lane causing even more dangerous conditions with all the traffic that will then move right to pass you because they don’t understand the “courtesy” you were trying to show.

 

I don’t know it as fact for sure but are you guys sure?

Don’t we have some former cops here.. what’s your say?

I’ve always thought that to be the truth but I’ve always wondered.

You guys ever see these truckers going as fast as their truck will go down a ramp and basically force you to hit your brakes or you’ll hit them?

I guess it still would be cited as a preventable because you could’ve prevented it.

But either way, hitting your brakes and letting them go on down the road is much better than the headache and time of waiting for police reports to be taken and the chance of injury and damage to trucks etc..

 

In IL it's 50/50 shared between right of way and merging traffic. AFAIK, every other state it's on the merging traffic to yield.

 

hmmm...

 

What if they are merging backwards, what are we supposed to do? LOL



I held my lane since I was getting off in 1 mile and this guy got all butthurt and flipped me off--