Dramatic Rollover Video

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  1. windsmith

    windsmith Road Train Member

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    If you cross the stop line before the light turns red, you've legally entered the intersection. All other conflicting traffic must wait for the intersection to be clear before proceeding. That's valid for any jurisdiction.
     
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  3. windsmith

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    Single frames from dash cams aren't a valid indicator of the condition of a traffic signal. The shutter speed can and does conflict with the frequency of the LED lights of the signal. The signal can appear to be 'off' in a single frame, while the frames before and after it will show it to be in the same state.
     
  4. Cam Roberts

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    Omg some people like to bicker over little nonsense. Accident happened. Some people step on the hammer when a light turns yellow and some stop. Get over it. If 2 people went through the intersection on a yellow and the other crosses into the opposing traffic, then it’s the guy who went into opposing traffics fault. There’s worse things in the world to be upset about
     
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  5. RustyBolt

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    Ok, Mom.
     
  6. not4hire

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    Wrong.

    MOTOR VEHICLE ACT
    [RSBC 1996] CHAPTER 318
    Part 3

    Yellow light
    128
    (1) When a yellow light alone is exhibited at an intersection by a traffic control signal, following the exhibition of a green light,
    (a) the driver of a vehicle approaching the intersection and facing the yellow light must cause it to stop before entering the marked crosswalk on the near side of the intersection, or if there is no marked crosswalk, before entering the intersection, unless the stop cannot be made in safety,
    - Motor Vehicle Act s. 128

    Yielding right of way on left turn
    174
    When a vehicle is in an intersection and its driver intends to turn left, the driver must yield the right of way to traffic approaching from the opposite direction that is in the intersection or so close as to constitute an immediate hazard, but having yielded and given a signal as required by sections 171 and 172, the driver may turn the vehicle to the left, and traffic approaching the intersection from the opposite direction must yield the right of way to the vehicle making the left turn.

    - Motor Vehicle Act s. 174
    The semi didn't stop because he was driving too fast for the conditions. The pickup was likely already in the intersection waiting to turn left. The pickup had the right-of-way, but the driver either didn't see the semi, did see it but thought it would stop, or has a low sense of self-preservation.
     
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  7. windsmith

    windsmith Road Train Member

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  8. scottied67

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    We have a natural desire to try to miss the vehicle that got in front of us, but sometimes it is just better to keep our lane and direction to save all the other innocent people who are not driving into our path.
     
  9. Snow Monster

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    It's been known since the 1920's that 24 fps is the speed at which the human eye sees a smooth and uninterrupted sequence of film.
    The video camera that recorded the accident was smooth as butter which says to myself that the digital frame rate was 24 fps or higher.
    The photo I posted was thererfore one frame that happened 1/24 th of a second after the amber light blinked out, or 1/24th of a second before the green light blinked on.
    Do you think 1/24th of a second makes any difference at all in the big picture?
     
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  10. not4hire

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    Your point is pointless. The semi was driving too fast; if he hadn't been, he could have stopped*.


    *ETA: In the absence of a proven, sudden mechanical or medical issue, the likes of which I expect falls somewhere between slim and none.
     
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  11. tinytim

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    When I watched the video I couldn't determine how fast the truck was going.

    I can't determine when the light turned yellow, how long it was yellow or where the truck was when it turned yellow.

    I can't determine if the truck hit the brakes when he/she realized the pick up was going for it but it does appear that he/she did start to move to the right just before impact.

    Google earth shows me that the intersection in question had a red light camera.
    Google Maps

    Google earth also shows a posted speed limit of 50kph. Someone said it was 60. Speed limits do change so maybe it is 60.
    Google Maps

    While I agree the big truck likely could have stopped for the light the big truck was visible quite clearly from the dash cam and I can't imagine it not being visible to the driver of the pick up truck.

    Seems like an unsafe (and unwise) left turn to me.
     
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