Well now if you rent a U-Haul you have to go through the weigh stations. They tell you that when you rent it so you would be takin a big chance if you don't inform your company that you are using their trailer and you get pulled over.
May need a trailer after all..
Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by txviking, Jul 23, 2009.
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I would think a diesel powered combination in excess of 26,000 lbs is gonna have problems.
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For your personnal belongings you do NOT need a CDL or USDOT #. You may run into issues renting a trailer, no legal issues, but you may have a hard time find someone who will will rent to 1) an individual and not a company and 2) someone who does not have a cdl.
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Personal belongings or not it dont make one bit of difference. ITS ENTIRELY ABOUT HOW THE TRUCK AND TRAILER ARE REGISTERED. If the trailer has apportioned plates YOU ARE FOR HIRE regardless if your not. You have to have it re registered to a normal yearly pay renewal like a normal 2 axle car trailer. As for the truck unless you have it registered as a motor coach/ RV you MUST have a air brakes endorsment on your cdl. (in WI you cant get a air brake endoresment without having a cdl). -
Read the entire thread before commenting. This guy bobtails around the country and has not plated it as a commercial vehicle.
I got news for you in WI as well.....you do NOT have to a cdl to drive a truck with airbrakes. IF you are a COMMERCIAL driver this holds true. BUT, if you are a private individual, like this guy is, you DO NOT FALL UNDER THE REQUIREMENTS FOR A COMMERCIAL DRIVERS LISCENCE. Air brakes are required for CDL people, not private individuals. This is why you can drive that RV that has air brakes with no endorsement. Once you do not qualify as falling under CDL requirements, NONE of the CDL requirements apply. No air brakes endorsements, no USDOT #, etc. -
Licensing is done by GVW of the vehicle and if it has air brakes you do need the endorsement regardless. If he pulls a trailer the vehicle would be considered "laden" which can not be used for personal use if I read it correctly. But he does get into a gray area with it as he is "not for hire".
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No he does not! Read whatever state you live in rules. Pay close attention to the exceptions of who needs a CDL. They all say 1) military 2) fire and rescue 3) INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE NOT ENGAGED IN COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY OF ANY KIND.
Once you fall into this exception catergory you no longer need any of the endorsements that apply, unless it is haz. Assuming he is telling the truth and what he is moving is his own stuff and not for sale, etc.
Just by simply pulling a trailer it makes nothing laden.
I have called no less than 6 states motor carrier divisions AND spoke to the DOT.
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I thought apportioned/not apportioned was determined by the truck registration, not the trailer registration? My truck is non-apportioned. Either way, doesn't a trip permit supersede the registration for that trip (I know people who have run on trip permits with no license plates at all, e.g. to get a truck or trailer home.)
The CDL portion is not a concern. I have a class A CDL. As for air brakes, that's not actually an endorsement -- you get a restriction that says "no air brakes" if you take your CDL test in a vehicle without them. My CDL is normal; no such restriction. -
I've emailed USDOT, but have not yet received an answer. As I understand it, they don't even have the AUTHORITY to regulate me, as their jurisdiction is limited to interstate COMMERCE.
However, there are also numerous state departments of transportation involved, and states have a lot more authority than the feds do in regulating what happens on their territory. So I'm just trying to find out what I have to do to comply with state rules.
Again, I'm primarily concerned with vehicle registration/trip permits. Whether or not a CDL is required is a moot point, as I have a class A CDL. -
if you can get a trip permit go for it. I dont know much about them. But being that your crossing state lines its a hole new ball game.
I was in the CT scale house on I95 just past the NY line. And they were writing a guy from NY a ticket (class 6-7 size truck i think) for overweight (not on truck gross but on registration), not having USDOT numbers, and not having the correct CDL class. Total cost for being 400lbs over and all the other citations was $3200.
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