1099 vs. W-2?

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  1. QLSJ243

    QLSJ243 Bobtail Member

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    Hey guys, I'm 27 and I've had my CDL's since 2015 and mainly always drove local. Over the recent years i've developed a passion for travel and decided if i'm gonna pay to travel why not go otr? Long story short I recently started driving for a car carrier company in California for the last 5 months getting bad pay and unsteady work so I decided to leave. I am now in the process of applying for new jobs everyday and am torn between owner operator, lease purchase, or company driver. I would really love the freedom to travel the states as an owner operator and having my own business is a desire of mine! Any helpful advice or sources where I can learn more would be appreciated! Also one of the companies I spoke with earlier said that a W-2 is way better than a 1099 and said that $0.65cpm on a W-2 is equal to $0.90cpm on a 1099.
     
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  3. Tb0n3

    Tb0n3 Road Train Member

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    A lot of posts about becoming an owner operator have indicated you should probably have a savings of at least $35,000. I don't think there are many people that would recommend a lease purchase as they're almost exclusively designed to take your money and leave you with nothing at the end. The problem with 1099 is that there aren't any company jobs that can legally pay 1099. It's a contractor classification that doesn't really apply if you don't own the equipment already. 1099 frees the employer from having to pay a lot of money for unemployment insurance, they're half of the federal taxes, as well as you having zero protections.
     
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  4. QLSJ243

    QLSJ243 Bobtail Member

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    Thanks man! I appreciate that, I was leaning towards owner operator and am confident that I can handle it. I've just heard so many people talk badly about it on Youtube videos. Do you know of any threads or sources that recommend good places to buy a truck from?
     
  5. blairandgretchen

    blairandgretchen Road Train Member

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    How much capital do you have going in?
     
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  6. MadScientist

    MadScientist Light Load Member

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    If you've never done long haul before I'd recommend you do it as a company driver for a year or two before you try to buy your own. It's not what a lot of folks think it is, and it certainly isn't for everyone - even those who like doing regional or local often can't or won't adapt to long haul.

    Stay as far as you can from any lease-purchase where the same company/person(s) decide how much work you are given and also hold the lien on your truck. Just when you think you are getting ahead, they'll stop loading you to keep you under their thumb until they decide they want the truck back to "sell" to another victim.
     
  7. Dennixx

    Dennixx Road Train Member

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    If you decide to drive for a company before owning maybe @Chinatown can steer you towards a good company in CA.
    Let him know your location.
     
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  8. QLSJ243

    QLSJ243 Bobtail Member

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    I'm not in California anymore i'm in my hometown in PA south of Pittsburgh catching up with some friends and family. I appreciate it though.
     
  9. Ridgeline

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    A 1099 at 90¢ per mile is effectively 60¢ per mile as an employee. Go employee.
     
  10. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    1099 pay fails to reflect the 25% of your revenue you will need to pay in taxes. If you agree to work as a 1099 driver you will need to pay state and Federal income taxes. You will need to pay Self-employment taxes (equal to twice the Social Security tax as paid to a W-2 employee) plus Worker's Compensation. 1099 also doesn't offer any health insurance. MANY 1099 drivers, new to the program, will spend every penny they receive during the year and only notice next April when they begin doing their 1040 income tax return that they owe THOUSANDS to the IRS. MOST trucking companies that pay via 1099 are misusing the IRS rules to avoid paying taxes. It's is a only a matter of time before the IRS discovers this and comes to collect taxes from the company and "employees".
     
  11. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    Right now trucks and trailers are at all-time high prices, while rates to move freight are declining. It's a particularly bad time to volunteer to pay truck expenses. Even if you have all the cash to buy a brand new truck from the factory, you can expect to wait over a year for it to be built.
     
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