Documents relating to a drivers activities during off duty hours are not required by any regulation that I have been able to find including 395.11 (c). 395.11 (c) says a driver must produce required supporting documents in his possession = (iii) Each expense receipt related to any on-duty not driving time;
7 Points for not switching to SB after Off Duty
Discussion in 'ELD Forum | Questions, Answers and Reviews' started by Noahd, Aug 14, 2018.
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You forgot to mention the 2 hour limit. Did you know about that?
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The "in his possession' is key.
"Officer, I don't have any documents in my possession."
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"Officer, can you prove that I was in the sleeper berth?"
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You can beat the officer in an inspection but you cannot beat a jury of your peers in a major multimillion dollar lawsuit after a fatality crash and you are under oath to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth so help you God.
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That's a bit of a stretch there...spyder7723 Thanks this.
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Yall r splitting hairs they r only concerned that u took 10 hours off consecutive SB or off duty or combination it has to be continuous unless u r using split rule if u dont belive what i am saying go ask ur nearest D O T officeru ask 2 u might get 2 different answer but they r only concerned that u took time off from work in 1 location cause they want u to have the opportunity to sleep rest without company interference
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Every time I see posts like this it makes me glad I don't have a sleeper.
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Can't argue with that lollaaylor Thanks this.
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The most important thing to realize about this "breaking" the law by "falsifying" sleeper berth as being off duty is that it is completely irrelevant to public safety, which is what the HOS was invented for in the first place. So I dare to say that the cop who issued the citation weighing 7 demerit points - compromising someone's well being for nothing - was an incompetent moron. A pseudo cop. Get him off the service to wash dishes somewhere!
When I feel like, I log off duty when I am in the sleeper and also log sleeper when I am off duty and I don't feel bad about it either. No one is getting hurt because of that.
Besides, all this discussion is laughable and I am taking part in it. I really have to rethink how I spend my off duty time. Is it off duty? Should I log the time spent on TR on line 4 or not....? What would the moron cop say?Last edited: Aug 18, 2018
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