7 Points for not switching to SB after Off Duty

I made this video almost 2 years ago about this subject--

 

Yup. Most stupid thing ever. Oh and don't forget to log on duty when you shine up your chrome, or Johnny law will give you a ticket. Big middle finger to the officer that wrote the ticket to coworker of the OP.

 

I understand, but I’m just curious where it happened.

 

I don't see where it's extreme.

SB is really only for two reasons. #1: Split break, where SB is specifically mentioned in the law. #2: Team driving, because you can't be off duty in a moving truck.

If you're not split-breaking and you're not teaming, then your Off Duty time means off duty. You aren't accountable to anyone, and the officer has no right to ask where you were or what you were doing. Whether you were in the sleeper, in a motel room or in someone else's bed, it ain't none of his business.

I'd love to see an aggressive legal team fight this, and settle the question once and for all.

 

Are you required to enter The trip ID trailer# for all trips?

 

It is in the green book. We don't get to arbitrarily decide which regulations we agree or disagree with as truckers. It is in the green book and fully enforceable.

There is no need to fight the regulations to settle anything. The regulation is set in stone and drivers will obey and properly log their time and their location whether they are in the Sleeper or not in the Sleeper or suffer the violation.

Now under CSA the carrier will be carrying some of the responsibility for the ignorant drivers out there improperly logging their time so you will see more training of drivers on this very easy regulation that some drivers are having just the most difficult time wrapping their minds around.

 

"Butbutbut...it's da law!"

Yeah, so was slavery. The only way you change the law is to challenge the law. Or you bend over and grab your ankles.

 

Yes this is required... I got verbally warned by WY DoT for this exact thing... She was nice and still have me a clean level 3, but made sure that I understood that I needed to put in all the info for all the trips, bols, trucks, trailers... Everything... If some thing changes it gets logged.

 

While this is true at first glance, there's something tickling in my mind that makes it clear as mud. For example, I'm doing IFTA reconciliations in my sleeper. On duty, or Sleeper berth? Booking loads for the next week in the Sleeper Berth. On duty, or Sleeper Birth?

Johnny Law is going to tell you it is on duty, every time, so location (Sleeper Birth) does NOT ALWAYS determine duty status. I think the argument is valid that Sleeper Berth is a duty status (as mentioned, related to teams and split sleeper status), and NOT always a location.

So the legal question is: can you be Off Duty in the Sleeper Berth? I think the argument is pretty strong that you can, if you can be ON duty in the sleeper berth.

But, Johnny Law's opinion holds much more force than mine.....

 

Slightly OT but somebody mentioned "hotel receipt" earlier in this thread.
I can imagine a scenario in which a driver finds himself in a bad situation so he goes on Priceline and books a cheap hotel room but never goes to the room. He just wants the receipt for show.

Disclaimer: I do not advocate nor recommend illegal acts