70 hours/8 day rule

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by ras1166, Nov 17, 2009.

  1. Roadmedic

    Roadmedic Road Train Member

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    Correction......

    You can work On Duty Not Driving for as long as you want.

    The problem is when to return back to the driving line.
     
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  3. Lilbit

    Lilbit Road Train Member

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    14 hours working, driving included, is all that's allowed. That's the way I understand it from hubby's time on the road.
     
  4. Roadmedic

    Roadmedic Road Train Member

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    Wrong. You can be on duty not driving for an unlimited time.

    I will get the link for you.
     
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  5. Jimbo60

    Jimbo60 Medium Load Member

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    No because the 70 hours is a total of lines 3 and 4. That's why if at all legally possible you want to be on line 1 instead of line 4 during your daily 14. It doesn't do anything for your 14 but it helps you with your 70.

    It is my understanding that, yes you could. However you could NOT drive until you have a continuous 10 hours on line 1 and/or 2.

    Unless you get into the split sleeper berth thing and really that can get so convoluted it's crazy. Some companies don't even allow it, a lot of DOT guys don't even understand it and, I'm not even sure that it's still acceptable.


    ..... Jim
     
  6. Lilbit

    Lilbit Road Train Member

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    I'll take your word for it RM. There is a reason I would not be out there right now, even if I could still drive. The new rules make no sense.

    Split breaking is possible, but it's a complete nightmare to do. Hubby had to do it a couple of times, and I just told him to not even bother explaining it!
     
  7. Roadmedic

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    It comes down to the hours.

    Say you dock on the 14th hour and then want to unload. You can legally unload and log as on duty not driving. However, the time involved is part of the 70 hour rule. It also affects over all driving time.

    Many times I will end my driving time in the parking lot for the night. I do my 15 minute post trip after the 11 hour or 14 hour ends. There is not a log violation on DDL. It just makes the 10 hour longer.
     
  8. scottied67

    scottied67 Road Train Member

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    What about the 10 hours rule, do you know if it is required to have that minimum time off before logging On Duty Not Driving again?

    For example, I drove all night to get back to the terminal for a class. Got there and shut down then got about 5 hours of rest and attended the class. Come to find out now that I needed to log that time as On Duty Not Driving.

    Because my day started at that point there was no way for me to deliver my load legally so they made me disconnect the trailer.
     
  9. Lilbit

    Lilbit Road Train Member

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    Thanks for the explanation. I miss the old rules.
     
  10. Roadmedic

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    As stated in the next post I made, a 10 hour break is needed in order to begin driving again.

    All on duty not driving time comes off the total available hours for driving as well, from the 70 hour week.
     
  11. djtrype

    djtrype Heavy Load Member

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    Let's now discuss split sleeper berths!!! :biggrin_25522:
     
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