90 Alley Dock Set Up

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Brandelay38, Apr 12, 2013.

  1. Brandelay38

    Brandelay38 Bobtail Member

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    I'm struggling with the Alley Dock I have failed my CDL skills test twice. On the practice yard i can put it in but we have markers to assist with set up, once I get to the test facility were on our own. I try to be mindful of my positioning while practicing but once i'm in a different local I can''t seem to work it out. I'm to far out or not far enough, or I haven't pulled far enough passed the lane or to far...just can't find that sweet spot. Any pointers or advice would be greatly appreciated.
     
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  3. Allow Me.

    Allow Me. Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    PRACTICE makes perfect. Get as much practice as you can at the school. Think of it like this, if you "PRACTICED" non-stop for 2 days, could you do it ? How about 3 days ? how about 4 days ? Somewhere in there, would/should be enough time.
     
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  4. Raydar

    Raydar Light Load Member

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    if your working with 53 footers. I think if its what I am thinking it is 5 to 7 feet out then when you get to the spot your going to back into you turn right then straight out a little your tandems need to be I think three spaces away from where your heading. I don't know if I am making any sense

    if this isn't how you do it then ignore this lol I am a new guy as well I have some training on the road with a trainer but its totally different from when your in school and when I was in school we had short trailers got out there with those 53 foot ones and it threw me big time.

    I think thats wrong

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    is the 90 degree where you go 12 o clock then back to 10 o clock
     
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  5. Powder Joints

    Powder Joints Subjective Prognosticator

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    If its the same that CA use here it is. Pull up with ( about a foot out from the cones.) cone on right side to truck till the cone is even with your front dual on the trailer, stop cut the steering wheel hard to the left back up till you can see the landing gear line up under your trailer with the right side of the sleeper. stop, cut right hard back up as you swing around start turn to get back under the trailer watching for the trailer and tractor to line up straight with the hole between the cones. stop and back straight in.
     
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  6. Chibob

    Chibob Medium Load Member

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    If you are not using a 53ft trailer then you should be. The longer the trailer the easier it is to back into a dock. I know it sounds wrong but the longer the trailer the more time you have to correct any minor mistakes.

    With a short (45') trailer any slight over steer goes to the trailer wheels faster than with a longer trailer. And go SLOW. When you are backing up you should be going no faster than you could walk or even slower. Then you can make steering corrections before you get too far out of alignment.

    Give yourself more room than you need. You are allowed two pull ups. When you make your first pull up, pull way farther than you need and go slow backing up. Then you have plenty of room to make any corrections. Practice, practice, practice. Good luck.
     
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  7. sharp.dressed.man

    sharp.dressed.man Heavy Load Member

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    Can you take the markers down at school at start practicing without them?
     
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  8. Brandelay38

    Brandelay38 Bobtail Member

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    Thanks to everyone for the replies thus far. Radar it would it would be a 12:00 and 9:00 set up, 12 being my tractor trailer and 9 being the lane to back into. Sharp.dressed.man, that is my plan exactly. I am now gonna practice it as a "real world scenario" as if at a truck stop backing in between two beautiful rigs. I struggled with my parallel parking and am now fairly proficient with both conventional and sight side. It's discouraging to fail when it's on the line but I'm not a quitter,I will get this! I love trucks and love driving them. You'll be seeing this ol' boy from Misery out on the road soon!!!:biggrin_25525:
     
  9. Chibob

    Chibob Medium Load Member

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    OK Brandelay now I have a clear idea of what you need to do. When you are setting up for your 90 degree back up try to make it a little less than 90 and don't stop until your rig is straight and you can see the lane you are backing into and your trailer wheels in your mirror. Start backing up as slow as you can go. Don't give it any pedal at all. I am sure that is where part of your problem is.

    Just remember there is no penalty for going slow or stopping. As soon as your rrear wheel is coming along side the lane turn your steering wheel all the way to the right. Keep going until your trailer is a little past straight with the lane. Then STOP! Keep your foot on the brake and turn the steering wheel all the way to your left and pull forward until your rig is straight and you can see all the way down the side of your trailer and the end of the lane you are backing into then STOP. Turn your steering wheel back to the right until it slightly past straight and then back straight into the lane.

    If at any time it looks like your trailer is not going straight back into the lane STOP and adjust your steering wheel. Don't try to serpentine it in there. That takes a lot of practice.

    Good luck, I'm sure you can do it.
     
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  10. TruckGal13

    TruckGal13 Light Load Member

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    Was hoping to use this on my skills test next week however found info indicating my trailer Must be at a 90 degree angle when setting up for alley dock.
     
  11. scottied67

    scottied67 Road Train Member

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    This guy goes from a true 90 degree into the alley dock talking about step by step

     
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