A dramatic turn for the worse

Young_Gun · Nov 26, 2015

It wasn't like that when I first started. As someone stated here; it was an amazing company to work for about a year and a half ago.

When Knight transportation bought them... It started to slowly change, and just built upon it. When the owners retired (about 2 months ago) that's when I felt the change, like a bag of bricks.

I don't want to come off as someone who is known for jumping jobs at the first sign of trouble, and I'll try to make it work, but from how I was treated yesterday made it absolutely clear this was now mega carrier and that I have no business being here.

---- religion talk coming, abort while you can! ------

You've been warned,

I believe in God. Not like most (not a bible belt kinda person). I believe when we pray for strength; God doesn't give us strength but rather the opportunity to be strong. When I ask for courage, He gives me the opportunity to be courageous.

When I ask for a chance to better my life, He gives me the opportunity. That is how I choose to see this. As truckers we have sacrificed way to much: Health, relationships, and time. I believe, for me, this is God perhaps giving me the opportunity to change my life for the better.

I still have both of my GI Bills (Montgomery and post 9/11) and have enough in savings to get me by for a few months with a part time job to supplement my income I believe I'll try for my B.S. And become something I've wanted to befom sense the 6th grade: a teacher.

I thank God for this opportunity and I hope I don't waste it. Amen.

Young_Gun · Nov 26, 2015

Chinatown said: ↑

Off topic, but do you know anything about Twiss Transport in Largo?
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No, good outfit?

Chinatown · Nov 26, 2015

Young_Gun said: ↑

No, good outfit?
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Don't know if they're good or not.
They're policy seems to be they hire experienced driver only.
One new CDL grad posted they hired him to drive box trucks and might put him in big trucks after he gains experience on the road. Seems fair.
Probably worth the drive to check them out face to face. Website looks ok.

HardlyWorkingNeverHome · Nov 27, 2015

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I owned and operated my company out of Ankeny IA. I have dealt with Barr-Nunn in the IMTA. There was a time about 8 years ago that they got into a financial bind and had about 250 brand new trucks sitting due to non registration. They sat for better part of a year. There were a couple of is on the board that helped them reorganize rather than borrow or go belly up. Their dry van rate was one of the lowest in the industry. Their driver wages were fair but they were operating at about an 19-23% deficit. Since then I haven't heard anything bad. As I remember the ownership was real driver friendly and and wouldn't hesitate to inform everyone in his company that the only reason they get a paycheck was because of the drivers. Since Knight bought them, I think the pisspoor driver relations from Knight has managed to find its way over to the BarrNunn brass. Mega companies give less than a #### about drivers. I don't know how long Knight intends tobhave them operate as a separate entity but I would guess not very long. Once all the debt is handled, either by payoff or bankruptcy, they will get rid of that authority paint those white trucks red (or gray) and put a new sticker on the door. No need to maintain separate dot numbers when the 2 companies are identical operation. I can't see BN having an account that won't use Knight. Good luck find a smaller carrier that has a good reputation for driver relations pays fair and follows up on what they say they will do.
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Man you've got a twisted sense of what was going on back then. We only had about 30 unseated new trucks that sat 6 months back in '09. The fleet widdled down to around 350 units and now it's back around 520.

Knight has nothing to do with how things are run at Barr Nunn. I feel Young Guns frustration. Everyone here is frustrated with a certain customer that we are trying to service. I hate it. This customer treats drivers with zero respect. They show zero respect for our time.

I think Young Gun put his foot down one too many times. This time they said take it or leave it I think. Florida is tough to get back to OTR. ESPECIALLY, with this new freight we are working out and loosing another that was actually good freight after looking back at it.

I've made the most money I've ever made these last three weeks. That being said I'd rather make $300 less per week than have to deal with this customer unless things get addressed.

Sorry Young Gun,
Hope things turn out well.

Fajo · Nov 27, 2015

HardlyWorkingNeverHome said: ↑

Man you've got a twisted sense of what was going on back then. We only had about 30 unseated new trucks that sat 6 months back in '09. The fleet widdled down to around 350 units and now it's back around 520.

Knight has nothing to do with how things are run at Barr Nunn. I feel Young Guns frustration. Everyone here is frustrated with a certain customer that we are trying to service. I hate it. This customer treats drivers with zero respect. They show zero respect for our time.

I think Young Gun put his foot down one too many times. This time they said take it or leave it I think. Florida is tough to get back to OTR. ESPECIALLY, with this new freight we are working out and loosing another that was actually good freight after looking back at it.

I've made the most money I've ever made these last three weeks. That being said I'd rather make $300 less per week than have to deal with this customer unless things get addressed.

Sorry Young Gun,
Hope things turn out well.
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This is very true, right now Knight acts kind of like a bank for Bar-Nunn. Knight has stated over and over again they dont want to mess with Bar-Nunn and don't really seem interested in doing anything with it other the taking $$ off the top for their "investment" into it.

hunted · Nov 27, 2015

Young_Gun said: ↑

If you've never read any of my barr Nunn threads, let me fill you in.

I've been a barr Nunn driver for almost 2 years (January will be two). I've had my up and downs but have always had a positive attitude toward barr Nunn (look at my other posts for more details).

On my thread "what's your 20" I was logging my adventures this past week, but have been omitting certain things. Not to defraud anyone but I was optimist that things would work themselves out.

This week has been simply a disaster. From loads canceling to loads taking a huge amount of time to get ready (Amazon). So bad in fact that I will miss thanksgiving once again while being with Barr Nunn.

That's not what I'm mad about, surprisingly. I'm upset about the fact how this has been handled.

When I first started with barr nunn, they would have bent over backwards to help drivers out. If you had an issue they would work quickly to resolve it.

No longer. Instead of treating me like a valued co-worker. I was simply dismissed as a whining trucker who "didn't know how trucking worked". (Been a driver for four years). Instead of trying to make me happy (wasn't asking for the moon, maybe a.. Apologie) my team leader insisted that this is how trucking worked and I should "get use to it".

After than statement I told my team leader that instead of getting me home: route to Charlotte so I can turn in my truck. Without hesitation he did.

I later talked with the supervisor of team leaders and to be honest... Was shocked on what I heard. (Parapharsing) "if you have a problem with us that's fine, we can easily hire more drivers..."

What?!? For a company that is begging drivers to get referrals and paying us thousands of dollars to do it... You're going to let a driver who has been with the company for 2 years, 100% on time delivery, go?!

Didn't try to make it right? Didn't try to maybe say "no we don't want you to go, let me try to fix it." Basically all he had to do is show me I wasn't just a number.... He failed.....

I know I'll get nic-picked with trolls but that's fine. Maybe I deserve it, but what a turn for the worse it has been.

Do I recommend barr Nunn? No, they are now just like everyone else.
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Sorry to hear that. Perfect example just how most companies are now. There is no loyalty anymore because they don't care about the worker. They don't care if morale is down. You don't even need to perform well anymore it really does not help anymore to go the extra mile and to do them favors. If you ever had a problem on the road they will most likely burn you than try to work with you and keep you its a very sad time that we live in now my friends it shouldn't have ever gotten this bad

6wheeler · Nov 27, 2015

Young_Gun said: ↑

If you've never read any of my barr Nunn threads, let me fill you in.

I've been a barr Nunn driver for almost 2 years (January will be two). I've had my up and downs but have always had a positive attitude toward barr Nunn (look at my other posts for more details).

On my thread "what's your 20" I was logging my adventures this past week, but have been omitting certain things. Not to defraud anyone but I was optimist that things would work themselves out.

This week has been simply a disaster. From loads canceling to loads taking a huge amount of time to get ready (Amazon). So bad in fact that I will miss thanksgiving once again while being with Barr Nunn.

That's not what I'm mad about, surprisingly. I'm upset about the fact how this has been handled.

When I first started with barr nunn, they would have bent over backwards to help drivers out. If you had an issue they would work quickly to resolve it.

No longer. Instead of treating me like a valued co-worker. I was simply dismissed as a whining trucker who "didn't know how trucking worked". (Been a driver for four years). Instead of trying to make me happy (wasn't asking for the moon, maybe a.. Apologie) my team leader insisted that this is how trucking worked and I should "get use to it".

After than statement I told my team leader that instead of getting me home: route to Charlotte so I can turn in my truck. Without hesitation he did.

I later talked with the supervisor of team leaders and to be honest... Was shocked on what I heard. (Parapharsing) "if you have a problem with us that's fine, we can easily hire more drivers..."

What?!? For a company that is begging drivers to get referrals and paying us thousands of dollars to do it... You're going to let a driver who has been with the company for 2 years, 100% on time delivery, go?!

Didn't try to make it right? Didn't try to maybe say "no we don't want you to go, let me try to fix it." Basically all he had to do is show me I wasn't just a number.... He failed.....

I know I'll get nic-picked with trolls but that's fine. Maybe I deserve it, but what a turn for the worse it has been.

Do I recommend barr Nunn? No, they are now just like everyone else.
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This is one of the main reason I took a credit card 6 years ago and bought my own truck. There are so many companies that crap all over top of the drivers, while the hard working office jockeys that have never driven a truck decide how to run things. Among getting paid better than the drivers with better hours is one of them.

I wish there was more OO out here to give the big money companies some competition

FreightlinerGuy · Nov 27, 2015

HardlyWorkingNeverHome said: ↑

Everyone here is frustrated with a certain customer that we are trying to service. I hate it. This customer treats drivers with zero respect. They show zero respect for our time.
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What customer? I'd be interested in hearing whether it's someone I know or not.

Fajo · Nov 28, 2015

FreightlinerGuy said: ↑

What customer? I'd be interested in hearing whether it's someone I know or not.
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I can name a few for refeer. Walmart, Americold, Safeway, Smiths, Albertsons and good old King supa! All of these are bottom feeder customers that I absolutely hate to deliver to. Zero respect for drivers and takes them FOREVER to get anything done.

mr.speaker · Jan 15, 2016

FreightlinerGuy said: ↑

What customer? I'd be interested in hearing whether it's someone I know or not.
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Probably Amazon. I remember when I was with Covenant and got put on the the Amazon/ups/fed-ex dedicated runs..We used to dread going to Amazon !! Great money but horrible place to deal with

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