Greetings!
wasn’t sure where to post this and have read of similarities (but not quite the same) and wanted to see if anyone else has ever had this happen.
I live in Georgia. Made a drop and was bobtailed. Due to an accident on a normal route, I went a different route back to my shop.
On a side road leaving the drop, I turned right. Approximately 20 feet from the entry of the road, there was an unseen sign (trees, curve, etc.) that was unseen with a “36k gvrw” limit. Truck is under 36k by a Long shot. Also, this sign is 150 feet from another company’s terminal (the placement makes zero sense). the sign is also smaller than every other one in the county.
Two miles away, I get stopped by local PD. I was issued a citation for “failure to obey sign” (not an overweight ticket). In Georgia, this is 4 points and treated the same as blowing a red light and COULD be a misdeameanor.
Legally, the GVRW is over 36k. That isn’t the debate. However without a trailer, has anyone ever fought a similar ticket? PD never looked at GVW and this particular officer has made the news more than one time for the amount of “distracted driving tickets”.
Attorney has been hired and the question isn’t whether or not I passed the sign.
there’s really two pieces to it:
1. is there a federal law for minimum requirements for gvrw signs? I’ve searched high and low because this signs in blind curve on a 45 road. Knowing where the sign is, you cannot see the sign until it’s too late. Everything I’ve read is not recent and has no specifics about setback or size.
2. Could the argument be made that GVRW without a trailer would be nowhere near 36k?
Advice on fighting a ticket for failure to obey sign.
Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by steve2039, Sep 16, 2024.
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Siinman, blairandgretchen, TX2Day and 1 other person Thank this.
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Go get a CAT Certified scale weight. Go to court and show your proof you’re under the limit. No need to pay an attorney for this long as you have the PROOF.
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Keep the attorney and get a cat scale ticket. Dot them "i's" cross those "t's".
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I know where you are comin from but sign says "Over 36000 GVWR", not how much the truck weighs. Just sayin, and cop prolly done it before.
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Would also be great to know which county in Ga this is -- other drivers may go around problem area (& cop)....
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Doesn’t matter what your truck actually weighs, the GVWR is probably between 50-60k.
That said, yes there are regulations governing sign placement. There is a thread on this forum where a guy beat a ticket in AR because of placement.
FHWA - MUTCD - 2003 Edition Revision 1 Chapter 2B
Do some digging there and any other research you can do on the manual of uniform traffic control devices. -
Fight it to the death.
Call OOIDA, mention it to them.
I’d also ask city council the reason for the sign being there.TX2Day, Siinman and Rideandrepair Thank this. -
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