Unbelievable! We're not talking about fatality CMV crashes on snowy roads, we're taking about CMV crashes on dry roads that are probably 100% preventable! Condolences to the families! The CMV driver was led away in handcuffs, probably for good reason.
http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/story/27425920/1-dead-1-critical-after-crash-car-fire-on-interstate-17
Another dry road, another fatality CMV "crash"
Discussion in 'Trucking Accidents' started by fuzzeymateo, Nov 19, 2014.
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That's not good - field sobriety and led away in handcuffs.
Another stained day in the industry. R.I.P., innocent driver.KW Cajun Thanks this. -
Shut the freeway down in both directions because of the fire & fatality.
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Exactly! It's mind boggling that so many of these recent crashes/fatalities are on clear roads without any hazardous contributing factors.
Whether its driver distraction, fatigue, equipment violations, or whatever the cause... it needs to be curtailed.fuzzeymateo Thanks this. -
Sounds like the driver failed the sobriety tests,why else would he have been taken away in cuffs.Another mark against the industry.My heart goes out to the victims involved in this horrific crash and their family and friends.
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I think it's all of the above as you stated. I will add-in unqualified drivers. This is what happens when the government regulates experience out of the industry. It allows CDL mills and training companies to keep throwing an abundance of irresponsible fools at the industry keeping pay low. Want more responsible drivers? Make it harder to get into the industry, not easier. Focus on training requiring a minimum of 4 months of CDL training at a mill, not 4 weeks. This will also bring pay up for the rest of us because it will create a real driver shortage, not a manufactured one. I could go on and on and it's certainly possible that this guy had years of experience; however, he obviously didn't take his responsibility too seriously so he's one of the "fools" that doesn't belong and never should have been let into the industry. I generally work nights and it seems as if every night I'm on the road I about get sideswiped by some CMV driver that cannot maintain a lane. It's shocking! In over 18 years of driving I've never felt so vulnerable.mnmover, 48Packard, KW Cajun and 1 other person Thank this. -
I'm the last one to want more government anything, but this is an epidemic. A quick think-through causes me to think the following:
1. More thorough training at the CDL schools. Make the test-out process more stringent.
2. (and this is the meat of my thoughts about this): Certify company-sponsored trainers. Any trainer or mentor for a company should have an absolute minimum of 2 years experience with a clean record. And again, while I'm no fan of additional monitoring, I think it should be considered in this case, namely, specific limits on working and driving hours for trucks operating as a trainer/student unit. Keep these trainers from using the student as merely another log book.
3. More stringent testing out of this phase as well.
I would have no issue with developing a set of rules (note, not "guidelines") to get new drivers trained from day one of CDL school right up until they solo for the first time.
Oh, and perhaps English should be focused upon, as twice in my last seven days on the road I was thanked...actually THANKED...by customers for speaking English.
This should not happen. Ever.KW Cajun, Lepton1, fuzzeymateo and 2 others Thank this. -
I agree. What you have written is common sense thinking. The government spends so much time on regulating incompetence instead of trying to get rid of it or never let incompetence enter the industry. Those of us who are not incompetent suffer under this and that's why so many experienced drivers are leaving, they are fed-up. This creates a vacancy to be filled by incompetence.48Packard Thanks this. -
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Very well said,, and fully agree with both of you.
Unqualified drivers should have been at the top of my list. (it sure was,, in my mind)
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I agree 100% with you all here my trainer sat upfront with me for like 2hrs them went to the bunk we ran as team from day 1 I drove interstate he drove towns and backed to the dock in 6 weeks I backed the truck 2 times once in a lot he said "you back better than most that have been out here a while" and once to a dock. Well day 1 on own not a good one learned more about swing and trailers that day than all of training. But on the brightside someone got a new car or just repairs dont know never heard anything about it. Lol
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