Anyone run a truck with an egr delete?

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  1. Ridgeline

    Ridgeline Road Train Member

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    not to be an ******, I like to know how this is done when it is against the law to do this.
     
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  3. Lazer

    Lazer Road Train Member

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    I’ve driven plenty of pre-regen, pre-DEF trucks that never smoked. If I had the itch to go back on the road with my own truck, I would purchase a pre-regen, pre-DEF truck.
     
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  4. Long FLD

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    Find a state like NE that issues a new “assembled vehicle” title when one component, such as the engine, has been changed. There’s a dealer here and that’s all they’ve done for the last few years. And they’re not sneaky about it. They advertise all over in print and online. They used to get brand new 389’s and W900’s and Cat swap them. Since 2022 they’ve been doing used trucks, even have a running add in Truckpaper to buy any 389 with up to 600k miles, because once the digital dash came out it wouldn’t talk to a Cat engine.
     
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  5. Short Fuse EOD

    Short Fuse EOD Road Train Member

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    It is not in all states. Salvage title, and rebuilt truck.
     
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  6. Arctic_fox

    Arctic_fox Experienced mx13 execrator

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    Long and short both beat me to it. That said the detailed process in MY state at least. Is you must scrap the truck for a salvaged title hence loss of all value of the truck even after its repaired as that salvaged mark never goes away. Then when you have the salvaged mark on the title you tow if to a place to rebuild it to a certain point. In my state its 2 major conponents must be changed i.e engine and transmision or axles or major body modification/restoration ect.

    Once that is done. You take the recipts from a certified shop and go apply for a reconstructed/custom vehicle title. They give you a ton of paperwork that needs to be filled out. You then take the unit to an inspector of which there are only 4 in the whole state certified to do this and who you will be required to use one of. All of who usually have a huge backlog of vehicles and it will sit there until he gets to it and it goes in for a state inspection (takes 4+ weeks typically). Afterwards if it gets approved by the state inspector as safe and correctly done. They will issue a certification you can take to the state and make you tow the unit away since its not legal to drive yet. After the state gets the paperwork they will do a review of the application which takes upto 14 business days and if everything is in order, they typically will issue a new vin plate and title. But its not legal to drive yet.

    Once you have those the vehicle ends up going to diffrent state inspector and/or local police agency to have that new plate (sticker nowadays) installed and witnessed/verified/stamped and they give yet more paperwork.

    The vehicle then gets towed to ANOTHER inspector for the final safety inspection. In this case with this being a CMV class vehicle, that means a pretty standard inspection by a DoT certified agent. And once you have that in hand you take ALLLLLL this paperwork back to the state where they then issue you your new new title and plates.

    At this point the vehicle is registered and titled as a custom vehicle. This is a loophole in the current EPA laws as there are provisions in it left for custom vehicles and RV conversions of older units or bringing pre vin vehicles and equipment to legal status ect. and as of NOW basically sidesteps the entire emissions issue legally. That may change later. It may not.

    Its a process and a half. Its halariously expensive because you need recipts for EVERYTHING. It takes a metric #### ton of time. The state inspector makes the normal level 1 inspection look like a ####ing joke. (the one i would be forced to use is well known for being anal to the point of checking TORQUE on every single BOLT for example levels of anal) so its not unusual for the vehicle to fail several times until he is happy. Your going to be towing the unit all over gods green earth. And you get the full DMV at noon on a saturday in a busy city with a unmotived DEI "i dont want to even be here and i hate your guts for making me work, ima ##### to my union rep for more smoke breaks" experince.

    But once you go through the process the vehicle is for all legal partys concerned a current year custom built vehicle. Again that may change later and several states dont give a flying rats rancid sewage covered ### and will still reject your truck same as any ligit old iron truck. But you cant be fined for it. Course if you ever want to change from say a detroit 12.7 to a diffrent engine the process starts all over again. But eh who ends up going to a pre emissions engine then swaps it again and again?

    YMMV with your own states laws as well. Many states dont have a simular program. Many have programs like this in end result if not process. Its one of those things its best to hire a lawyer like i did to look into your states process and give you a thumbs up and a detailed process to follow.
     
  7. Judge

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    reputable shops won’t work on deleted. most won’t take a delete trade in. can’t fix it, can’t sale it. it breaks you got a big anchor weight..
     
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  8. AModelCat

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    Nobody checks that stuff here. Go sit in an industrial park somewhere and I bet every 4th or 5th truck has straight pipes lol.
     
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  9. MacLean

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    Agreed. Almost every truck I drove there was deleted.
     
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