Backing for the test

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by RND, Sep 26, 2007.

  1. RND

    RND Bobtail Member

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    Any hints on the Alley Dock Backing for the CDL test? In my state we have to do it at a 90 and instead of backing up to an actual dock, we have to back between two rows of cones only 12 feet apart. I'll be testing with a triple-axle trailer. I can do it at a 45 but not a 90. Oh I should also mention there's another cone set up in front of the "dock" cones and your truck can't go beyond that cone either so it's really hard to make corrections with that big of a truck & trailer. We're also allowed to get out of our truck only two times (and I want to save those for when I finally get back in there so I can get out and see how much farther I have to go without going too far) and we're allowed four pull-ups for corrections. Thanks for any help you can give me!
     
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  3. K&J

    K&J Light Load Member

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    Ive been working on 90's lately and so far the best I have done was 1 pull up (usually takes 2 pull ups), however that was with a 45' dry van. 90's are very difficult and even my instructor can't do one without a pull up.
     
  4. RND

    RND Bobtail Member

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    90s seem to be a little tricky for even experienced drivers, I don't understand why the state limits us to how many pull-ups and how many times we can get out of the truck. In real life if you have to get out 20 times you'd do it to prevent an accident. The worst part is I won't even be doing this in real life because of the type of trucking I'll be doing. I keep hearing these skills tests have gotten a lot harder within the last two years and we have a very high failure rate - who's behind the tougher tests???
     
  5. munrkr

    munrkr Medium Load Member

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    Because in "real life", pulling up a half a dozen times and/or G.O.A.L would be kinda dangerous if you have to do it in a street, hence the term "alley-dock". You're welcome. :biggrin_25525:
     
  6. ziggystyles

    ziggystyles Road Train Member

    I think there are lots of reasons why they wantyou to learn how to do it.

    The big one for me is that Im going to be delivering to auto parts stores and car dealerships...so backing is going to be very important for me to learn.
     
  7. Mklangelo

    Mklangelo Light Load Member

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    That other cone is 70 feet from either the left most front edge of the lane or the right most, I'm not sure. Here is what passed the test for me.

    When you begin your left turn see to it that the front edge of the front tire of the rear tandem is about three feet past the second cone from the end of the lane. Turn your wheel 360 degree and hold it ( if your tandems are moved foward, then start the turn when the spot on the trailer where that front tire on the rear tandem would be if it had not been moved up)

    That should put you with that other cone approximately on your right side of your front bumper. Now turn on your 4-ways and holding the wheel in the same place, simply back up. Stop when the rear of your trailer is far enough so you can determine if your too wide or too tight. You can take as many stops as you need, but you only get one pull-up, the second one will cost you 6 points, at least in Wisconsin.

    Now if after your stop, you realize your too tight, you want to turn the wheel to the left. That's gonna widen you up. Just before your trailer is aimed down the lane straight, crank it Hard Left to get under it. Back in as usual.
    If your too wide, then straighten out your wheels (this only works of you still have an angle on the tractor from the turn. And just the same, when the trailer is almost straight, crank it hard left to get back under it.

    I hope this helps.

    PS remember due to the length of these vehicles, it takes any correction on the steering wheel about 10 feet of travel to effect the trailer.
     
  8. K&J

    K&J Light Load Member

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    After trying for a week, I finally nailed the 90 alley dock 2 times in a row without a pull-up but man that is hard to do. The key I found was to pull up far enough before backing. I was constantly taking 1 or 2 pull-ups to get it in straight, till my instructor told me to pull up farther (about a tractor length more than I was) and presto I backed it in twice in a row without a pull-up. Give yourself extra room to start floating into position and see if that helps.
     
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