im a newby training with Werner and my first trainer did not have much patience when it came to my limited backing skills. during my three weeks with my trainer i was not given very many opportunities to back. while i was training for my cdl the instructors only taught us the 90 degree, pull ups and straight backing as this was all that was required for backing portion of the Oklahoma CDL test. i would appreciate any and all positive feedback as far as setting up for a 45 degree or any suggestions on backing skills. i get back on a truck next week to complete or continue my training and i sure would feel better if i could at least go in armed with alittle more info on backing. btw just for other newbys out there who are thinking about your CDL training, I recommend that you stay away from American Truck Training in Oklahoma City. they are over crowded and their equipment is in bad shape.
backing help for a newby
Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by haze1, Nov 3, 2006.
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Practice. practice, practice. Backing is 9 parts art, 1 part science. Remember GOAL
Get
Out
And
Look
After a while your gut while tell you where your trailer is. For now, practice, practice, and practice. Rent a truck and trailer from Ryder if you can. Heck, use your pick up and a U-Haul if you have to. Same principles, smaller scale, easier learning curve. Crawl, walk, run. -
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thanks boilermaker and nanny b. hopefully i will have a few more opportunities to improve my skills before im assigned my own truck. until then i'll just do the best i can and i will apply the advise you have given to me. im looking forward to a successful career driving and appreciate all the drivers on this site who take time from their busy schedules to help other drivers.
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it takes practice. Nobody is perfect in backing. Everybody has those days that everything just goes right , even the backing. Then there's the days that you just can't back up for ****. it happens to all of us. i have talked to guys who have driven 20-30 yrs and they still have there bad days. just practice and it will come to you. You know you know what you are doing when you mess up and know how to correct it. It is all about the approach and set up. good luck , don't worry you will get it.
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My first tractor trailer driveing job was pulling a 53ft trailer to the
same terminel every night. The most important thing that I learned
was to take my time and not be rushed. The terminel was small and
there was little room. Other drivers would have to wait for you while
you backed in so they could get by. I saw other drivers damage trailers
because they would rush to back up so they could go clock in. I learned
as a new driver that if I set up wrong and others were waiting for me,
to circle again to get set up right. Also I found that if a backed up really
slow, it was posible to bump the trailer next to me without damageing it.
I did not make that a habit. But I did see other newbies fired just because
they were in a hurry and wrecked. Some of the terminels (includeing
this one) were built before 53ft trailers existed and
can be chalenging even for
experienced drivers. You sometimes have to roll your landing gear most
of the way down before you back in cause it is too tight. All it takes is
one preventable accident to set your career back several years.davetiow Thanks this. -
It should be said that there isn't one correct way to back up. 2 drivers going into the same dock may go about it differently. I'm a "turn the trailer as much as you can while still going forward" kind of guy, while others will drive straight past the dock and start the turn from a perfect 90 degree angle. Sometimes the dock dictates how you approach it. As the others have said, it just takes practise. 16 years later I still get messed up the odd time.
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When my roommate went for training back in '85, he had three weeks of training. He didn't 'get' backing until the last day. What he did was go out and buy a toy tractor trailer, and he did backing manuevers with it so he could see what the tractor and trailer were doing during the manuevers. He 'played' with it for awhile until the complete physics of it were burned in his brain and then practiced all kinds of backing manuevers with it to see what it did. He says that getting that total picture in his head helped him to understand how he had to set up, what the trailer was going to do, and what he needed to do to get the trailer to do what he wants. He still uses GOAL and yes, he's had his bad days too, but he swears that without the mental pictures he got with that toy truck, he would never have mastered backing. At the outset it sounded silly, but after giving it some thought, it made sense. Give it a try, it couldn't hurt.
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Getting out and looking, and developing the "eye" that goes with it is probably the most important thing. If the wheels on the trailer are all the way at the back of the trailer, then where they go is where the trailer will go. If they are set ahead of the rear, remember that the back end swings beyond them, and that has to be accounted for.
It just takes time and practice, it doesn't come overnight. I admit, it isn't an area that gives me much trouble, but 20 years of towing, pushing, and directing aircraft on flight decks within inches of each other gives me an advantage in knowing how things react to my inputs.
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It takes time and oneday it will CLICK....something will happen and it will become easy to hit the hole...
GET OUT AND LOOK
If it takes 30min to hit a hole much better than the 3hrs writing reports ant talking to the company when you hit something.
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