Cdl B driver getting a CDL A license

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Jimmyb820, Jun 14, 2016.

  1. Jimmyb820

    Jimmyb820 Bobtail Member

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    I have my Cdl B license. Got it 5-6 years ago. I decided that now I want to get my CDL A license. Took all my enforcements.

    I signed up for a driving school and I wanted to learn it in stick but I was told that since I already have my Cdl B license with no restrictions that if I take my CDL A on a automatic that I won't receive the E restriction because I already have a CDL license. They said the new restriction is only for new CDL drivers.

    I live in NY state.

    I want to make sure that they aren't lying to me and I paid for driving lessons and I take the road test then get a restriction. I would have to retake it on a manual and take lessons again.

    I'm going to call the DMV tomorrow but I wanted to see if anyone knew about this.

    Thank you!
     
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  3. AM14

    AM14 Road Train Member

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    You already said what you have to do. Call the DMV. They are the only ones who can tell you for sure, and even then it's sometimes tough to get a straight answer when it comes to commercial licenses. I would think that it wouldn't matter whether you have already have a class B or not. I live in NJ and when it comes to the DMV/MVC, the two states seem to be pretty similar. The sure fire way to not have to worry about it is just test in a manual. Your school doesn't have any?
     
  4. Friday

    Friday Road Train Member

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    Hmm. No idea about automatic, but I didn't have to take any tests at the dmv except combination vehicles when I got my class A permit (I had a class B with air brakes and passenger endorsements). No air brake test or CDL test since I already had it.
    I'd advise learning on a stick though. It's a very necessary skill to know in this business. Not at all companies, but quite a few won't look at you.
     
  5. Wooly Rhino

    Wooly Rhino Road Train Member

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    I read the New York page on the issue and I would call the DMV and ask them to translate it.
     
  6. Friday

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    One more thing to add. If you don't already know how to shift a truck, getting a license without that restriction will make every company think that you do know how to shift. And there's nothing worse than arriving at orientation and then packing up your stuff in a couple days and going home. Seen a few guys that had to do that during my orientation.

    Shifting a truck is nothing like a car. Tell your school that you don't give a #### what the dmv rules are and that you want to learn and test on a manual.
     
  7. Jimmyb820

    Jimmyb820 Bobtail Member

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    Well what happen is, I called the school and was told that I didn't need to know how to drive stick to start stick lessons. I never drove stick in my life. I work for the City as a bus operator and drive the double buses, etc but never got around to learning stick. I live in NYC so it was never a big thing to learn here. Anyway, I get to my lesson and the instructor was like you don't know how to drive stick? I said no the school told me I didn't need to know already. He said I can break the truck and all this. I kinda had an idea but he said he couldn't let me do it and then he said you should just learn it on a automatic and just get my license and worry about stick later. I paid them already for a package. The school doesn't even teach stick on cars. So I'm not sure if I should go take stick lessons on a car and come back to learn on a stick or take it in automatic and I was told I wouldn't get the restriction but like everyone is saying, I'll have to learn it anyway and it's very important to know because most trucks are manual. I don't want to get my license then go back to learn stick. I'm going to take some lessons on a car and see how it goes.
     
  8. Friday

    Friday Road Train Member

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    That is stupid. When I was learning I came from driving stick car all my life. I had more problems than people that have never done it before. In fact everyone that came from driving stick before had more issues than people that never did it before.
     
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  9. Bob Dobalina

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    Right. It WILL NOT HELP YOU to learn on a car. It is due to the difference between synchronized (car) and non-synchronized (heavy truck) transmissions. The only similarity is the fact that they both have shifters.
     
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  10. Jimmyb820

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    Yea? I'm thinking about seeing if I can get my money back and go to another school. I was pissed.
     
  11. Friday

    Friday Road Train Member

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    Yep. Manual in truck is so different from manual in car it's a whole mind shift to stop acting like you're shifting a car. Much easier to learn how to shift a truck than to unlearn instincts on how to shift and train yourself to do it differently.

    It's sad now when I get in my car and I can't shift it half the time since I'm trying to double clutch and not pushing the clutch in all the way.. Last time I drove it I gave up and started floating gears in it.
     
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