Check My Numbers V.2

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by basedinMN_, Jun 14, 2023.

  1. basedinMN_

    basedinMN_ Medium Load Member

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    Again the point here isn't to gather information about rates. Only costs.
     
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  3. bad-luck

    bad-luck Road Train Member

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    I understand that, but both go together. You have to take that into consideration. If you don't have the funds to pay for maintenance and repairs and equipment payments, your not going to survive. The best advice I can give you, is when you become an owner operator, always put away as much as you as you can for maintenance and repairs, even when you have really good weeks.
     
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  4. Kenworth6969

    Kenworth6969 Road Train Member

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    Try $2 a mile and less miles.
     
  5. Kenworth6969

    Kenworth6969 Road Train Member

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    Where is DEF costs?
    And only one scale per month? Really?
     
  6. Kshaw0960

    Kshaw0960 Road Train Member

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    These numbers are very unrealistic. 46 weeks a year working is going to be so hard. If you ever have to wait for a part your whole week will be screwed. With a financed truck and a trailer on spot freight there is no way you will ever be able to pay yourself $1 a mile. With deadhead you will not do better than $2.25-$2.50 a mile currently.

    Have you done any research to see how many owner operators fail? What I and other owners that I know of did was start the business paying ourself just enough to survive. I think my first year was $22k and my second year was $28k so I could build things up and invest in the business.
     
  7. blairandgretchen

    blairandgretchen Road Train Member

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    I like the fact you're crunching the numbers, and not being argumentative when challenged. I wish more new entrants would do the research before jumping in. There are many good points made above.

    We did it like this, and as @Kshaw0960 stated, until we were debt free in the business.

    1099 revenue comes in the door for the week . . . .

    • 15% off the top, into 'TAX' account.
    • 30cpm into 'MAINTENANCE' account
    • 15cpm into 'EQUIPMENT UPGRADE' account
    • .40 cpm driver wage processed as an employee (I'm the driver) - and paid into our personal account.
    • Remaining revenue into 'COMPANY' account.

    Out of the 'COMPANY' account, loan payments were made, any business related expenses that were not maintenance.
    TAX account - paid quarterlies, payroll taxes, and end of year taxes, including CPA fee.
    MAINTENANCE - obvious.

    The first 6 months we just crossed our fingers and rolled. The accounts built up, we lived on less than $30k in wage, until all equipment was free and clear.

    The goal wasn't to work 46 weeks of the year though. It was so she could retire early, and I could sustain the household working less than 6 months/year.

    I guess what I'm trying to say is I think you're doing a great job of examining every tree, down to every branch and leaf, but you need to put the drone in the air and get a good look at the forest.
     
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  8. blairandgretchen

    blairandgretchen Road Train Member

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    Good point - DEF needs included.

    On board scales would probably reduce any CAT scale costs significantly, the Right weigh units are super accurate.

    Where are the costs for RETIREMENT and HEALTH INSURANCE ?

    Oh - tires is probably too high. One set of 18 tires may run you about $10,000 - and should last the 185k miles you're basing this on annually.
     
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  9. 062

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    Depends on if you do it yourself or take it to the dealer.
    I do my own for around $600 a year. The dealer would probably be around $2k.
     
  10. basedinMN_

    basedinMN_ Medium Load Member

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    In version one a poster, @Concorde suggested adding a scale to the trailer to reduce scale costs. The assumptions above are for a $60k reefer, of which $48k is financed. I figured a scale kit could be worked into trailer financing easily but maybe that should be included in a separate line (repairs) or maybe the $60k assumption is too low. I'll have to think about that.

    With DEF I lumped that into fuel cost with lowering mpg from 8 to 7.5 since there's not a line for DEF on the rigbooks page . Maybe I'll lower it by another 0.1-0.2 mpg in version 3.
     
  11. basedinMN_

    basedinMN_ Medium Load Member

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    The change from 50 work weeks to 46 was based on this post from @Nostalgic in version 1. In version 3 I'll lower it again.

     
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