First, let me say that I am currently driving locally. I now have the distinct impression that my company is not doing any visual checks of the braking system during scheduled maintenance services. The questions are:
. 1. What should I, as a concerned driver, be looking at?
. 2. How would I recognize the problem when I am looking at them?
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Apparently, since I am no mechanic, I need the step by step idiots guide to the driver's check of the braking system. I hope I am the only person who does not get it. But, I am posting this thread in the Newbie section just in case someone else may need to know this type of information. Thank you for any information you can give me.
Checking brake system
Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Xcis, Apr 23, 2011.
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You should be checking the brakes everyday during your pre-trip.
If the brakes aren't up to snuff grab and wrench and go adjust them... that would be a good start. Check for air leaks... and the amount of lining left on the shoes... this is basic stuff covered in your CDL test... -
Well a correct visual would be getting under there, on the ground crawling around and checking shoes, drums, air lines, fittings etc. Cannisters(tanks) too. Then, with air applied (brake pedal down) listening for air leaks. Need 2 guys to do this, but you can at least do the trailer by yourself with the trolley bar. Or, kind of a block of wood to depress the brake pedal while you're under there by yourself. BUT, DON'T put yourself in a precarious position. Engine off, wheels chocked, transmission in gear. You can listen for air leaks without getting under there, but may need to crawl under to pinpoint any airleak. Just be careful, not stupid.
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Unless you are a certified air brake mechanic, as a commercial driver you are not allowed to "grab and wrench and go adjust them". It may be different if you are an owner/op. Also most companies do not want drivers messing with the brakes.
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how does it work that if you dont know anything about the brake system--how do you know they arnt being checked during the pms?
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#1 with truck running, pull forward at about 5 mph and stomp on the brakes, feel for any side to side pulling, none? good. #2 once again with truck running, pull the tractor park brake while trailer park brake is off, pull against the brake in first gear "gently" you are just trying to make sure spring brakes engage.#3 now do the same thing with trailer brake on, tractor brake on. #4 push in both both tractor and trailer brakes, grab ahold of your johnson------------------bar, and make sure your trailer air brakes are working. ok, now you know they work, they may not be adjusted perfect but they work. if want you can do an air leakage test, i do that on my sunday or monday pretrip before i leave for the week. its in the cdl book, i dont have time to list it now. stay safe.
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Truck is a class B straight Mack trash truck that was involved in a rear end accident. Brakes were stopping the vehicle well enough during normal braking on Interstate and local roads in morning rush hour traffic. First time I had to go hard on the brakes --- nothing. Immediately after the rearend accident, I called for road maintenance. Mechanic found brakes out of adjustment, one slack adjuster barely functioning and something about the S cam that I didn't quite understand. He adjusted the brakes. I have a copy of the maintenance write up. Shortly after that, truck was returned to the terminal shop.
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Now this company has a really well deserved reputation for being really cheap. Yet they replaced the brake drums, brake linings, slack adjusters, S cams and their associated bushings on both sides of both drive axles. And yes I have a copy of this maintenance write up that describes all the work and parts that were replaced as well. Company says they did all this work because they don't want any problems with this truck. HUH??? They replace all these parts just for the fun of it? I think not.
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I may be ugly but I ain't stupid. IF visual inspections were done during PM's why did brakes fail under hard braking? Why are they replacing all these parts? Come on; this just does not pass the smell test. -
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