Crossing midnight

I guess I could correct nearly every sentence of a past post of someone that wishes everyone could understand the English language, and maybe use it properly.

Since I have my 'nice boy' hat on right now... I won't

 

Say for example, your day starts at 2100. Pre trip and fuel ON DUTY. DRIVE until 0400. OFF DUTY 30 minutes. 0430 DRIVE until 0630. Unload and post trip ON DUTY. 10 hours OFF DUTY. After 10 hour break, probably some time after 1700 you would flag the next pre trip.

According to the schedule above, you wouldn't start the new log until the first change of duty status for the new day, which would be at 0400.

"But Six, what if I got pulled into a scale and they want to see my log book?"

As long as you continued DRIVING without a change of duty status, your log would be current. Have no fear. According to the regs, you would not be in violation.

 

Where can I get my mother####ing 'nice boy' hat?

 

Why on earth do ya'll feel the need to make an easy concept so difficult......
1-Logbook must be CURRENT to last change of duty status...period.....so cross midnight....start new page the next time duty status changes....until then there has been no change of duty status..
..2-Pre or post trips....dont care which you do....a trip is a trip....weather it is completed on same day or two days....do it when it starts or ends....
And company standards CAN be more stringent than federal standards.....in these cases FOLLOW company guidelines....

 

Want to add even more confusion? Try running during the time change at 0200 AM when if falls back to 0100 and you run that hour all over again. I did it once on Elogs and all it did was darken the line for that hour and though I showed 10 hours driving it recorded 11 -- 0100 AM repeated.

 

I was taught you do a pre trip after your 10 hour break or after your 34 hour restart. Never had a problem

 

Just a question though. How many drivers will admit to mostly pencil whipping their pre-trips? How many times have you over slept wake up go grab a quick coffee then head back and maybe just walk around the truck before just getting in and driving? I said in another thread there was a close family friend of ours that was a State DOT officer. A few years ago we were discussing this very topic in a local café. He told me of a time when he would sit in his car parked in the lower parking area of the Southbound I-85 scales near Carnesville Georgia and watch the one eyed trucks passing by. Over several days he noticed one LTL tractor that came by pretty much the same time. Every time with the same light out. He decided to stop the guy one day and asked him if he did his pre-trip. The driver produced his pre-trip paperwork and my friend told him the company must be spending a lot of money on headlights because that truck can't seem to make it to Georgia without them going out. No fines no out of service order just a friendly piece of advice to get it fixed. The funny part though was he told me with a laugh that from that day on for a good while when that companies trucks passed through either the south or northbound scales all their lights were burning. I wished all DOT officers were like this guy. I have thought about that story a lot over the years and thought how effective he was in getting that stopped by a simple bit of humor and advice to one driver.

 

you always log home terminal time and elogs will log what ever time region they are set up in

 

in short, pre and post per shift keep track of mileage per 24 hrs, within a state, crossing state lines and fuel stops.

at midinight your adding to the new day.

 

I had a note pad on the dash. no matter how it looked I kept track of mileage this way at midinght and crossing state lines.when I stopped I transferred it to nice neat sheet if I had a fuel stop in said state, the amount and where was entered on that nice and neat sheet.. on a log its just where you fueled up. I turned in that sheet to the owner of truck once a month or when asked to do so.