Do I need a DOT number in Illinois

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  1. haulinnuts

    haulinnuts Bobtail Member

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    Hello,

    I work for a company that will be buying a few trucks to haul product between two of our facilities. Both facilities are in Illinois and only about 10 miles apart. Looking at the FMCSA site it appears we don't need an US Dot number since we aren't going out of state. Do we still need an Illinois DOT number? I assume we won't need a MC number since the trucks will be not for hire.

    Thanks in advance for the help.
     
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  3. Judge

    Judge Road Train Member

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    Yes, Illinois requires intrastate authority for motor carriers that transport property for hire within the state, except for household goods carriers. To obtain this authority, known as a Public Carrier Certificate (PCC), you must apply to the Illinois Commerce Commission. You can apply online through the Transportation Portal. The application fee is $50, and you'll need to provide proof of cargo insurance and public liability. You'll also need to pay a $5 fee per vehicle for a cab card to be carried in each vehicle.

    won’t need interstate authority, and there for won’t need ifta if you travel in one state.
     
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  4. Accidental Trucker

    Accidental Trucker Road Train Member

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    He won’t be carrying property for hire, it’s a private carrier.
     
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  5. snowwy

    snowwy Road Train Member

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    I was told mc is for crossing state lines.

    I was also told dot if commercial vehicles are part of the company. (Semis). Even the pickups have them and require medical card because of the dot number on the trucks.

    But I don't live in Illinois.

    Someone on here posted something about ifta. Don't remember what it was though. Every local company I've been with has had the stickers on their trucks. Only one company actually crossed state lines.
     
  6. wis bang

    wis bang Road Train Member

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    MC number is a carrier's authority to transport goods interstate for hire and is soon to be eliminated and rolled into the DOT census number.

    Commercial Motor Vehicles [CMV] with a Gross Vehicle Weight Rating [GVWR] over 10K require a medical certificate/physical but not the DOT required drug and alcohol testing along with a required CDL is over 26K GVWR..

    IFTA is a fuel tax agreement between states. When 100% intrastate you pay all your fuel taxes at the pump but once they go interstate they owe fuel taxes for every mile traveled in every state offset by the amount of fuel purchased in each state and must display an IFTA decal on each side of the CMV from your home state.

    Quarterly you calculate your fleet MPG [total gal and total mileage calculate the quarter MPG along with a state by state breakdown of miles and fuel and MPG to calculate the amount of fuel needed to satisfy each state's share of taxes offset by the gallons purchased.

    Some states are over paid [credit] and some under paid [debit] and after it balances out you owe some or not and you pay up a litle or a lot based on how and where you fueled.

    Compound this by the fact that CMV's under 26K are not required to apportion their registration and do operate interstate without apportioned registration plates [IRP] so vans and small box trucks don't need an IFTA decal... but small boxes do need a NY HUT if they go there...

    Confused yet?

    Contact your state motor truck association and they should be able to recommend someone who can help follow your state's rules.
     
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  7. Judge

    Judge Road Train Member

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    Goes into officer discretion and unseen laws.
    If your transport your car to a dirt track race, or make any money from said car, it’s considered for hire hauling and you’re required a dot card and intrastate authority,
    Know a guy who got those tickets in his pickup with his enclosed trailer and his car inside in Arkansas, which require intrastate authority if you don’t cross state lines.
     
  8. Accidental Trucker

    Accidental Trucker Road Train Member

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    We're not discussing if he's commercial, he most definitely is. We're discussing requirements for private, intra-state carriers, as opposed to common carriers (i.e. for hire).
     
  9. W923

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    No dot number needed as long as the product stays in the state
     
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