Does 20 hours off duty = two ten hour breaks?

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  1. Florida Playboy

    Florida Playboy Road Train Member

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    What would you all do here? Delivery appointment is exactly 27 hours from now and I'm 8.5 hours away. I am just starting a full 10. At the end of the 10 I will have 17 hours until delivery. Do you extend the ten into a 18.5 hour break and shoot straight through to delivery OR do the regular ten and get within an hour of receiver and do an 8 hour break and hopefully catch a two at the customer? Which option would give me more clock time once unloaded assuming the unload will take two hours?
     
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  3. Bean Jr.

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    This is a difficult question, and even safety guys at big carriers might not know this, but their log scanning system does! I used to take it all the time, but got dinged for it once, and I couldn't figure out my mistake. I went and spoke with the safety guy who looked at me if I were nuts. "You know better than that, the split sleeper rule ended with the old rules!" That wasn't my mistake, I had added wrong.

    In short, the 8 only suspends the 14 hours and the 11 hour drive time, but doesn't reset them. The 2 hour resets them, but only back to the end of the hour sleeper. So in this case, you would have 11 hours left on your 14 hours, 1 hour driving 2 hours sleeper, 10 hours left for driving.

    Here is a site that explains it; http://www.truckingtruth.com/cdl-training-program/page95
     
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  4. scottied67

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    My bad I mis-read your question. Yes after the 8 sleeper you'd have 3 available but you took 1 hour driving. After 2 hour break you'd have the balance of 11 left over so the answer is 10 hours.
     
  5. scottied67

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    That is the age old question of truckers everywhere. Trying to predict the future when you get there. Probably the best answer is to extend the 10 where you're at now then time it to arrive an hour or two before appt time.

    What I do now is figure out whether they have parking at site or at least outside on the street. Get there about 4-6 hours early, 'check' in without checking in, just arrival macros, park on the street or on the property and log sleeper til appt time then do the check in get docked and continue sleeper til the 8 is complete hopefully by then I've been empty for a while and ease off the property or go pick up my next load or whatever.

    Bottom line, that split sleeper provision is a necessary skill to max out dollars in trucking, don't believe the super truckers who only drive during sunlight and only know 10 hour solid breaks.
     
  6. KMac

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    Wait, what, you're falsifying your logs? I thought you were mr. Log legal at all times?

    Nice to know you're not a Robot after all.
     
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  7. KMac

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    There is no right answer, Scottie gave you one option personally I would do the opposite and get as close as I could, do 8, do the two at the receiver. Only you know if that's feasible with your receiver. Most of mine it usually is.

    The end result would be the same amount of hours to drive, the difference would be how long a break you need to take to get ours back again.
     
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  8. Bean Jr.

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    Yup. That's falsifying, and elogs won't do away with it!
     
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  9. scottied67

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    I only break the law if there is no other choice to be compliant and legal if that makes sense
     
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  10. DTP

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    Yep, you're good to drive the next 22 hours. If you get pulled over, just tell em you pooled 2 breaks together so now you're combining 2 shifts of driving ;)
     
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  11. Lepton1

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    So, if I am having wild gorilla sex with one foot in the bunk and one foot on the passenger seat, how do I log that?
     
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