Does 20 hours off duty = two ten hour breaks?

This isn't true. I work for a guy in whose Office and HQ is in Wisconsin, central time, I am leased to a carrier with a main office and DOT Number addressed in NYeastern time. I am dispatched out of the California office, Pacific time.

I log Pacific.

 

When you are new it isn't exactly easy walking up to people to ask a dumb question. Many drivers out there are just as salty as are here on this board. Older drivers get jollies by pointing out "you must be new" as if its shameful. That's why I joined here. I can ask dumb questions on here that prove I shouldn't be a driver yet. But nobody knows who I really am!

 

If you only drive 8hours 45mins every day you will never run out of hours. You will always have 8:45 coming on recap that midnight. If you drive 11 hours all week you stress out because the dispatcher doesn't want to give you a 34 hour reset. They wanna see you drive every day. So stop at 8:45 worth of driving. Plan on 500-550 miles per day. and you will never run out. Recap is easier than praying for a 34 reset somewhere.

 

Yes you are missing something. He was out of hours on his recap, and wouldn't be recovering until midnight, the next night. I think he was being serious about the question, which brings in your second point, it is scandalous that drivers today don't learn things as basic as logging. It is important to remember that the hos laws will not change, just the method of recording them, if you are not exempt from having an eld, will.

 

NO

 

Probably don't need to take a 34. Just sit out tomorrow and when you pick up the 10.5 hours midnight roll then for ontime delivery.

 

For the average driver the time zones used by paper logs are designated by the company home terminal. The FMCSA really don't get to involved as far as the actual time used. The main thing is/was and always will be syncing those times to fuel and GPS records. The system will allow an hour most of the time but will flag more then an hour. As far as E-logs I never used them but something tells me this time is not up to the driver in most situations.

 

I didn't imply it was up to the driver, just the the comment that you log where your Headquarters is not necessarily true.

I have a friend, same company, leased to the same company, dispatched out of Atlanta, he logs Eastern, I am dispatched out of California, I log Pacific.

 

I'm with you. My point was a general point as well. With Paper logs (for those that still use them) and if you drive for a company that aggregates records like toll, Fuel, and GPS records the main thing IS TO SYNC these times with the system or your going to get flagged by safety. Everything else is just commentary. If anybody in here don't believe me go ask someone in your safety dept what the largest fault was found in a drivers paper logs ? I will be willing to bet the majority will say syncing issues where times don't match. The FMCSA don't care what time you use. However during a safety compliance audit this stuff is looked at.