Does DOT allow for fuel weight

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  1. scottied67

    scottied67 Road Train Member

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    Got an overweight ticket the other night myself. Just to clarify, i know we don't suffer under CSA or PSP for overweight loads but since it is a monetary fine ticket, does it affect my MVR?
     
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  3. ChaoSS

    ChaoSS Road Train Member

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    Anything over 200 over gross DOT is authorized to perform an immediate roadside execution. No reweigh, no court involvement, just a bullet to the back of the head. The truck will disappear and never be seen again.
     
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  4. mjd4277

    mjd4277 Road Train Member

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    Virginia especially has been cracking down on axle weights,along with Tennessee,Georgia,Florida,North Carolina and lately Maryland has been up to douchebaggery as well. Illinois has both scale houses and they use portable scales
    NEVER ASSUME that just because you're only 200-300 pounds over on your axles that the scalehouse will give you a pass. A lot of drivers learn that lesson the hard way when they get red lighted and pulled in for inspection and a overweight ticket afterwards,all because they didn't spend the $11 at a CAT scale to save them the grief because they figured it would be "okay to roll with it". Also,California,Michigan,Pennsylvania and Florida have been cracking down on drivers violating the BRIDGE LAWS when said drivers are driving with their trailer tandems slid all the way back on the trailer in order to get the vehicle weight legal. When DOT sees vehicles like that that's an automatic red flag and the states I mentioned will red light you and/or(in Pennsylvania's case)break out the portable scales. Either way,you're ******* if it turns out you're overweight.
     
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    Wooly Rhino Road Train Member

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    I skipped ahead again so I am sorry if this is just repeating something ready posted.

    The way to insure this does not happen is to scale your load before you fuel. There are times when you want to fuel only half way. There is no reason to completely fill your tanks everytime.
    Driving on a load for Hirschbach I had to stop by their Denton, TX yard to have fuel drained from the reefer tank. 50 gallons of fuel in a tank that would not be used as it was a dry load. The load was a preloaded trailer so I did not have the option of having it unloaded.

    It is actually kind of fun to pull into a yard and watch other people work hard to make a load legal while you drink a coke.
     
  6. Jdm5jdm5

    Jdm5jdm5 Light Load Member

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    I have a load of Powerade right now that weighs 44148 pounds.

    With a full tank of fuel my scale ticket is 12300 on steers, 31600 on drives, 32720 on trailer and 76620 on gross.

    The heaviest loads I pick up almost never are over 45000 pounds.

    If I slide my fifth wheel forward 1 or 2 holes will this take the weight off the steers for the future.

    It seems the safest thing to do is not take a chance being over on the axles even 1 pound.
     
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  7. gokiddogo

    gokiddogo Road Train Member

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    Slide 5th wheel back 1 or 2 holes to take a bit off steers and add it to drives.
    Are your fuel tanks more towards your steer axle or your drives or kinda centered? If they are all the way forward, your steer axle weight will vary more with your fuel level ...

    And holy crap you can scale about 47600.
     
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  8. scottied67

    scottied67 Road Train Member

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    If you slide forward you'll be putting even more weight on the steers--. but I wouldn't even worry about 12,300
     
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  9. mjd4277

    mjd4277 Road Train Member

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    Usually it's safer to slide the tandems on the trailer then to mess with the fifth wheel (our company's tractors have fixed fifth wheels,we can't slide them as the fifth wheels have a pneumatic kingpin release). If you slide the tandems on the trailer back a little bit you can put more weight on the drives. That way the truck will burn more fuel off and at the same time it'll relieve some of the weight on the steer axle and "balance out" the truck at the same time.
     
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    Jdm5jdm5 Light Load Member

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    The tanks are sort of centered between the drives and steers. I drive a 2015 freightliner cascadia.
     
  11. mjd4277

    mjd4277 Road Train Member

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    100 gallon fuel tanks on each side? Also,do you have an APU?
     
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