E-logs and Reality

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Red Hot Mess, Dec 30, 2011.

  1. virgil tatro

    virgil tatro Medium Load Member

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    does any one know that if you dont make money (earn a revenue) you can drive your truck and trailer any where you desire and dont have to follow HOS rules or use EOBRS/log books? i learned this a while back in a conversation I had with a member of the ATA and then i called the FMCSA with the same question and got the same answer.. Not if you are not generating revenue..
     
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  3. scottied67

    scottied67 Road Train Member

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    I have found that if I sit on the truck for 34 hours, often it's closer to 50 hours by the time they start sending load offers, sitting begets sitting. So I have modified things a little, just set my projected time available out by 17 or so hours every 3 days after the first week out from hometime. This way I've picked up a midnight, and will be picking up another midnight soon, otherwise if in a bad freight area, halfway to that 34 anyway.

    I think it has to do with weight too right? 26,001 pounds?
     
  4. Tazz

    Tazz Road Train Member

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    The words your looking for are unladen and not under dispatch. Yes once you cease to be a commercial vehicle by meeting those two standards you are free to drive because you are no longer subject to FMCSA regulations.
     
  5. virgil tatro

    virgil tatro Medium Load Member

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    No, my truck and trailer together weigh almost 30.000, they just said because im not charging for a service/generating revenue.. I know i was grossing once at around 50.000 pounds..
     
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  6. virgil tatro

    virgil tatro Medium Load Member

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    Its true, I called and asked if I could use my Tractor Trailer to move my family across country and if I did am I subject to HOS Rules etc. I had already done this two times but with all of the hubbub about HOS and EOBRS I decided to call the FMCSA and ATA and ask why I can do this using the same Truck and Trailer. And the answer was because I am not generating a revenue/charging for a service... 2 pickups and a shed loaded with stuff on a stepdeck..
     
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  7. pattyj

    pattyj Road Train Member

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    My company says to the OTR drivers only time they'll be doing a reset is at home.As long as you have hrs after midnight you can get some miles
     
  8. wsyrob

    wsyrob Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    Do you normally take longer than a 10 hour break? A couple of 8.5/10's and you would be running during the day. Constantly sifting start times from morning to night would wear me out.
     
  9. PackRatTDI

    PackRatTDI Licensed to Ill

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    Today I logged 709 miles in 11 hrs, all legal, logged it as I drove it, no dividing miles by speed, etc. Logged a 15 min fuel stop and 15 min lunch break. Avg speed of 64.5 mph. I use paper logs but kept track of my time with my GPS and I arrived 3 min after my ETA, which was exactly 11.5 hrs after I left.
     
  10. ironpony

    ironpony Road Train Member

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    Depends... when I'm pushing a tight schedule, yes - I'm right back on it after a 10-hour break. When I can take my time, yeah, I'll sleep-in for 12.

    It really takes some getting used to... part of the adjustment from a 8-5 life to trucking.
     
  11. wsyrob

    wsyrob Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    The biggest problem I have with running like that is the way your start time backs up if you need to run a tight schedule.

    If I am not rushed and the load is scheduled so I can't get layover pay I often run 12-12 starting at the same time every day. Head out just before sunrise, drive 6 hours or so, take an hour for lunch, drive 4 more and park for 12 hours starting at the same time the next day.
     
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