Elog......maybe not

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  1. Lyle H

    Lyle H Road Train Member

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    I don't understand the part where you say "this will impact our industry heavily".

    How are you doing it now?

    Elogs are not changing the HOS regulations.

    And I don't want the government to regulate the shippers. If you already know what the shippers operating procedures are, its up to you to adjust accordingly. Either by time or freight rate.
     
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  3. OLDSKOOLERnWV

    OLDSKOOLERnWV Captain Redbeard

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    Don't get me started....:) seen that again 2 weeks ago coming home from Alabama. New technology has maybe made newer drivers to relaxed?? Not ready for that split moment decision?
     
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  4. Scooter Jones

    Scooter Jones Road Train Member

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    Your 70 hour clock is comprised of on-duty & drive time.
     
  5. Duurtipoker

    Duurtipoker Medium Load Member

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    Well ####. That's some good information. Now I understand why folks have said they'd cheat on the 14 instead of the drive time. I wasn't aware of this. I assumed if you were cheating it would be to get in more miles. Yes, I know, assume makes an ### out of ....well just me in this case. I retract my former statement.

    This is exactly the kind of info I was after. Thank you sir.


    Ed
     
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  6. Duurtipoker

    Duurtipoker Medium Load Member

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    That I do understand. Thanks though. I just had no idea the clock was running no matter what you do, once you start of course.

    I'm beginning to see that people don't necessarily hate the elog itself, but how it's implemented. At least that's how it is seeming to me. This changes the argument in my opinion.


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  7. Dna Mach

    Dna Mach Road Train Member

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    I'd never again run OTR on elogs. Did it for a month before getting out of OTR altogether.
     
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  8. rocknroll81

    rocknroll81 Road Train Member

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    I know, I get P.O.d when I see that, guess who gets hit when they loose control...me, I'm seeing a lot more of it.
     
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  9. tucker

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    If you little girls can't go 14 hours without a nap.... maybe you aren't cut out to be a Professional Truck Driver.
    Please leave now and let the men handle it.
    If you're scared to log legal and have the delivery time changed,
    let us men handle it.
    And if you work for such low wages that you have to log illegal to have a cold can of soup for supper, then leave now and go back and live with your mommy.
    I'll haul the freight that you don't know how to.
     
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  10. Scooter Jones

    Scooter Jones Road Train Member

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    14 hour rule:
    Start pre-trip at 0600
    Driving at 0615
    Stuck in bad traffic for 1 hour to go 15 miles
    Check in at consignee at 0715
    No open docks
    Dock at 0915
    Check out at 1200
    Start driving, get stuck in fatal accident traffic for 2 hours to go 45 miles.
    1400 Arrive at shipper, you're late and they'll work you in when they can.
    Dock at 1600
    Check out at 1800
    Drive 100 miles and your 14 hour clock runs out at 2000.

    You have driven a whopping 160 miles in 14 hours. At .40 cpm mile that's $64.00 for 14 hours of work. What's that? $4.57 an hour.

    Makes sense, doesn't it?...

    Than they wonder why there's such a high turnover rate in this industry.
     
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  11. ShooterK2

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    I haul frac sand. I go on jobs, and just haul sand till the job is done. Sometimes the frac goes slow. I may haul a load 30 miles from sand plant to location, then sit there for 7 hours waiting to unload. They finally burn thru some sand, I unload, run 30 miles back and grab another load. Round and round we go. Takes an hour and a half to go load and get back to location. 6-7 hour wait on location on every load. 2 or 3 days till the job is done. Ain't nobody gonna tell me I'm not getting enough rest on a job like that. I'm sleeping so much, I can't sleep anymore. But, it can't be logged legally. Even tho I'm off duty or in sleeper for 18 hours out of every 24 hours.

    Someone is gonna say "it's not an elog problem. It's a HOS problem." And you're right. But, since the great powers that be don't seem interested in fixing the dang HOS, then paper logs is the only thing we have to give us the flexibility we need to do our jobs. We are not out here trying to be unsafe and kill people. We are just tryin to do our jobs.
     
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