Unless the visit would disqualify your medical they have no right to know anything about it. If it impacts your medical then you would be obligated to consult with a DOT medical examiner. In plain English, the carrier has no right to any medical information about you other than if you have a valid medical or do not. HIPPA protects your privacy only to the extent that your information is not shared to people that have no business with it. It is very restrictive, but not if you offer the information.
If you are no longer medically qualified per DOT regulations for medical reasons to operate their vehicle you would have to notify them. Under no circumstances should you be bullied into sharing private medical information that is not related to your DOT qualification. If your medical remains valid you should inform them as such and document all communication for a potential lawsuit.
All that being said, whatever company you work for sucks. Could you sue them, probably. Do you want to bother, probably not. Find a better company. Ask @Chinatown for some suggestions on where to go.
Employer wants private medical information from routine Dr visit
Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Matt43324, Nov 8, 2018.
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If my distrust of stories that seem abbreviated or might contain many omissions makes me a bad person then a bad person be I.gentleroger Thanks this. -
I am just as entitled to my opinion of a subject as anyone, even you. I only responded to the information that was given by the OP, nothing more.
If you want to attack me for it, well, I really don't care.
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There is something about this situation that is bothering me. I was speaking to someone I know that is now retired from a carrier. I was asking them about this request for information. I was a few minutes later gave two FMCSA sections to think about. Granted these sections are OPEN to interpretation and I will admit I am not anywhere near qualified to make an official one. The first one is 391.41 (B) (3) (i)
Now stay with me a minute more. lets look at §391.45 now. Specially section (c)
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The OP 'seemed' to request an unusual thing - delaying the next load for a doctor visit.
The OP also stressed that he had a letter from the doctor that he was OK to work.
No one needs a letter from a doctor for a routine visit, do they?
The fact that he had to tell his company that he needed to go to the doctor and would not be able to take a load until later in the day (during a normal work day) is reason enough for the company to request more information from him - in my own opinion.
And obtaining a letter of clearance from the doctor for the 'routine' visit before the company asked for anything is another point of suspicion.buddyd157 Thanks this. -
If all of you lawyers don't quite down in here I'll charge all of you with contempt. And you can spend the night in clink.
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The OP got a DR. note clearing him for work, that's all that is needed, many company's require notes, for an unscheduled absence.
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The exam is not limited to just the exam, the examiner can talk to the PCP or other treating physicians to make a determination for fitness to drive and really there is a legal reason for a release.
The rub in this case is the release to work from the doctor in the OP's case.
That opened the door for the company to ask why, while it is his right to refuse to say it is theirs to refuse to let him drive until he can prove otherwise or have another exam to provide proof.
He can't stand on the grounds of privacy, the company has to know why a release was issues and they have to judge whether or not the drive poses a threat while driving.
HIPAA doesn't cover the privacy of and within the company, it does the examiner and the docs but then if the company sponsored the exam - paid for it - then there could be an expectation that the exam info is released to the company. As the exception of the law is clear, it is there to ensure that the US DOT/FMCSA regs are followed to ensure the safety of the public.
HOWEVER the changes to the FMCSA record keeping requirements made a few years back and being slowwwwwly implemented doesn't require the company to have the long form, just the certificate - with the exceptions of any waiver given to the driver by the FMCSA (which means in that case the company has access to all info pertaining to the waiver and the driver's condition).
At this point the certificate is the only thing that the company needs, and that will be soon obtained through the state MVR.
One thing that has yet to happen is that there has yet to be a court case for a US dot regulated driver to fight a company or examiner under the protections of HIPAA. This is significant due to the fact that there are no limitations in the law other than an exemption for anything related to the fitness of the driver to preform safely. Any lawyer who has this specialty will tell you there won't be unless there is a lot of abuse of it, and there hasn't been.buddyd157 Thanks this. -
Simple enough, got a note ok to return to work. Company doesn't like it, ok come pick up your equipment.
Now after reading all this my brain hurts, and I'm going to have to see a doctor. ThanksSirscrapntruckalot and Matt43324 Thank this. -
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