Empty & Loaded Miles Paid

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by tlalokay, Feb 3, 2017.

  1. Crude Truckin'

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    In my experience, you get compensation for waiting only if the carrier gets compensation as well. There are some exceptions to this, such as break downs, where a decent employer would put you up in a motel and give you layover pay.
     
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  3. pattyj

    pattyj Road Train Member

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    Of course you was within your rights.I think ALL drivers should get paid something whether a small or mega carrier if they have to wait hours for a load.Afterall they have bills too.But it depends what's in the policy book.
     
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  4. Ridgeline

    Ridgeline Road Train Member

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    Not to be argumentative with you, but the problem is you don't see the issue of how it works, there is no rule that you need to be compensated for the wait time between loads, that's really not going to happen.

    However if you take the attitude that you should be paid for every little thing, then it begs the question why are you telling us you don't know how much you're being paid on detention time when you got that compensation.

    I don't side with the owner, I can't stand these guys when they scream about the driver being paid more than the owner, it isn't how it works.
     
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  5. passingthru69

    passingthru69 Road Train Member

    Be glad you don't do oversize and heavy haul.
    With that attitude not wanting to wait more than 10 hours for a ld. Keep on slaming your doors in the back
     
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  6. tlalokay

    tlalokay Medium Load Member

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    There's no rule saying I shouldn't be paid. And I'm not even sure that my company doesn't get paid detention and they're just not paying me. The owner said as much at one point in time.

    I spent 7 hours at a receiver on another load during the same time out on the road. I had to fight for detention. I don't know how much I was paid for that because 1) my company messed up my pay rate, again, paying me $.35/mile instead of $.36, and 2) there were other reimbursements for tolls and an onsite tire repair I paid out of pocket for on the check and they don't itemize these things on my check stub.

    That's exactly what made me so mad. My comment that I don't care about how much it costs to run a truck was only in the context of that being mentioned when asking to be compensated for time waiting.

    Thanks for your input Ridgeline....
     
  7. pattyj

    pattyj Road Train Member

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    They get paid real good to begin with.But hauling general freight should pay something if youre waiting a certain amt of hrs for a load.But that's the industry and noone is forcing you to stay if youre not satisfied with the pay.
     
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  8. Ougigoug

    Ougigoug Heavy Load Member

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    I believe drivers should be compensated for their times wether driving or waiting loading/ unloading or while breakdown, this is the cost of doing business for the owners.

    I know that being a driver will involved being gone for extended period of times but the times that you are not spending with your loved ones should be compensated.

    When owners play the game of we pay for this not for that or also we didn't get paid for this, this is none of the drivers business drivers are there to drive and make money.

    Sometimes in business we do make very good some other times we lose, but this is the risk we take, our drivers shouldn't have to suffered when sh.... hit the fan.
     
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  9. pattyj

    pattyj Road Train Member

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    I dont know what is worse driving for a mega carrier or a small company with a mean cheap penny pinching owner.
     
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  10. Dna Mach

    Dna Mach Road Train Member

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    I'm with the OP. I pull tanks, I leave home, perform a job, and return home. ZERO downtime other than three ten hour breaks per week in the truck. I got tired of sitting on docks for no pay so I quit pulling junk freight for junk companies. Killing yourself to bring home $800 dollars per week is no life at all.
     
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  11. rcelmo

    rcelmo Medium Load Member

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    I always hate waiting for free. I realize sometimes stuff happens. Equipment
    breakdowns, product is late, etc.

    My problem is with the dispatcher sending me to the same place where I had
    to wait last week, now he sends me right back; full well knowing I will have to
    wait. Problem is that me waiting doesn't cost him anything. Also he is to
    ignorant to figure out that when I am waiting for free, the truck isn't making
    money either. The real gripe I have with dispatchers is when they grab the first
    available load, instead of working a little and finding a good load.

    Dispatch wants to go home so he clicks on first available cheap load and he goes
    home. Now the driver is stuck dealing with a load that may not be ready, maybe the
    receiver isn't ready, etc. Dispatch doesn't care, he is at home with his family. Driver
    has no choice. He may know the load is a dud because he got stuck with that load
    before. He is forced to take whatever the Owner/ Dispatcher dumps on him but
    heaven help him if he complains about it.

    Sometimes if companies would listen to their drivers they might actually learn
    something and be more productive for driver and company both.
     
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