Empty trailers take longer to STOP

kind of like all todays school children.


Only taught to pass the test !!!!!

That is all that matters...........

 

Hahahahahaha.... you're a piece of work.... you never wanted in? Then why call me out in the original post? You're entire point to this thread was to try and slam me.

You're only changing your tune now, because many with REAL experience have told you you're wrong. I always said from the beginning of the first thread about this that they needed to answer what the gooberment wants to hear whether it was true or not. You were the one who went off hell bent to prove me wrong and call me a troll for disagreeing with you.

Your blanket statement then and in the first post of this thread is an empty trailer ALWAYS takes longer to stop. That is not true. Many have already pointed out and you would know that if you had any real driving experience.

This is not a debate about the fundamental flaws in the "book" but a debate over reality. You are wrong, not because you tell students to answer the way the book says you should, but because you believe the book is correct. Why don't you actually log some real driving miles hauling real loads? You would understand then. In certain situations can an empty take longer to stop? Yes. The majority of the time... no.

I'm done here, because, well... honestly every time you post people decide for themselves about all those years of "experience" you have.
I will pop back in now and again to laugh my butt off at you.

 

Well if you are puttering around in the truck stop parking lot at 10 mph, then a loaded trailer vs. an empty trailer stopping distance will be about the same.

But at highway speeds in an emergency stop situation? Not so much.

It's a matter of traction. A loaded trailer typically has more traction than an empty one. An empty trailer can and will bounce. I've seen it happen and I've had it happen to me.

Hell... I've seen countless "broken" dual skid marks all over the highways that indicate that the trailer wheels lost contact with the road.

 

Seriously... brush up on your reading comprehension would ya? A "blanket statement" is all encompassing. You can not cherry pick what variables you want to equate to prove or disprove it. It means that always, every time, no matter, without a doubt an empty trailer takes longer to stop. That is false and if you believe differently... well.. honestly I can't help you.


And ReRun... in 1.75 million miles you never figured out that an empty does not always take longer to stop? Hahahaha... yeah ok buddy. And no, I will not pm you and if you pm me you will get the same "Leave me the #### alone" response you got last time. I love a good debate but when the other party is clueless it's annoying so I have no desire to discuss this further with you.

 

Funny post. Tanker girl does not know the meaning of the word FAIL. If you are on her team you win every time.

Any new driver reading this thread need to take in every post Blackw900 has made. Believe his info and apply it.

I agree that empty trailers can be dangerous but, The statement empty trailers will always take longer to stop is insane.

TankerGirl you know how much you mean to my wife and I. We are on your team always.

 

Awww.... you're so awesome Wayne. I love you guys

And you're very right. BlackW900 knows his stuff and has plenty of real world experience.

 

I have a good friend by the name of PharmPhail.

He went to truck-driving school. He was one of the best in his class. Very smart guy.

He lasted about 9 months.

A few of his friends on the FORUM tried to help him with real world experience.

In my opinion his main reason for failing was his un-willingness to listen to the advice of seasoned drivers.

 

Last one and I'm out. Who cares about that MSQR?? If you looked at the chart of stops w/o that Turbo3000 cousin installed, you would have seen that the average was (and this is from memory, not going to look it back up) 316 feet loaded and 301 feet empty. This was a non-ABS combo under controlled conditions. Please, I beg you; please explain how this doesn't disprove "loaded stops faster than empty."

But regardless, you've gone back and forth, trying to have both sides. One minute you argue your premise is fact, the next it's "what I have to teach students." You came trying to shame a young lady and failed. A word for ya:
If your in a hole, stop digging!