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I was leased on to Farm2Fleet from September 2014 to August 2015. For the most part, I was happy until they started paying me late almost every week for 6 weeks in a row.

I got tired of Lauren's elaborate excuses like...Oops my bad...and...Oh I forgot.

Rollin Coal was personally mentoring me on how to book high dollar freight. Him and Marek were two of the best owner ops at F2F and it was just last year at this time we three were getting $5 per mile from desperate brokers.

These aren't loser owner ops who are mad because they failed and are looking to blame Bill and Lauren Hood; these are two of the best owner operators F2F had leased on, whose loyalty and hard work were compensated with excuses and lies.

I hope you get paid Marek, I know you've earned it.
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Thanks. The legitimacy grows.

blairandgretchen, Jun 10, 2016

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The worse part of all of it imo is how many that had never been leased or
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The worse part of all of it imo is how many that had never been leased or involved with f2f that were so happy there were problems. Celebrating the struggles of others absolutely disgusts me.
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no the worse part is it turned out to be true. In the closed thread some folks who claimed to be owed money were trashed, turns out they were telling the truth. Some folks owe them apologies.

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The answer is really simple. They take huge risks using other people's money to fund most of it. At some point, the people with the money start calling the shots. Only they don't know the operational side of the business, and the original leader just becomes the mouthpiece of bad policy. The investors just care about what kind of cut they're taking off the top. Eventually, there's enough bad decisions dictated by those that hold all the gold, that the business becomes unsustainable and collapses. At the end, the only villain left is the guy that had the bright idea in the first place. During better times, he may have acquired some nice things, that consequently make him look even worse when the poop hits the fan.

Don't take this the wrong way. I have been a vocal fan of Bill's since I met him and it was just him and his one truck. I'm deeply disappointed to see what's happened here. Obviously not as disappointed as those that aren't getting paid, for sure.
and hat I am 99.999% sure of is: that Bill did not set out to grow his business with an end goal of screwing a bunch of hard working men and women. I'm also almost that sure that, at some point along the way, he lost real control of the business and was too naïve to realize it. If at some later point he figured it out, it was probably way too late to save face. Or he didn't figure it out, and his new "friends" in the industry have convinced him that doing business like that is ok. Who really knows?

What I can say for sure is that big business gets built with lots of risk, and rarely without outside funding. The very few who manage to pull it off are regarded as captains of industry, and the rest fade into the past as greedy bad guys.

Exactly the same as you did. At some point, you have to cut your losses and move on. I also would have probably let it ride even longer than you did, because I can be a real sucker sometimes. Or because you're smarter than me.

Yes I'm sure. But what about you?

Jussst kidding. Actually the opposite case with me. I know what RC looks like, and even bought a truck like his since he's just that cool. Mark, on the other hand, seems to always miss by a day. I'm beginning to think there's more to that LOL.
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No one sets out to do this, but when it happens, there has been mistakes made. Bill, sometimes here basically said he had reinvented the wheel, said many had simply bought jobs, he often seemed arrogant in many ways,,I guess. Its only a natural reaction for some to crow. Someone always gets left holding the bag, and its empty, sad situation.

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skateboardman said: ↑

No one sets 8ut to do this, but when it happens, there has been mistakes made. Bill, sometimes here basically said he had reinvented the wheel, said many had simply bought jobs, he often seemed arrogant in many ways,,I guess. Its only a natural reaction for some to crow. Someone always gets left holding the bag, and its empty, sad situation.
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I agree. Just because you know industry buzz words, doesn't mean you can run a corporation...

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that's unfortunate, i deal with customers who pay late all too often. i have always managed to collect however. i hope you get paid.

speaking of witch reminds me i need to make some collection calls on some invoices that are 30 days late. ugh

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Ezrider_48501 said: ↑

speaking of witch reminds me i need to make some collection calls on some invoices that are 30 days late. ugh
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When you say 30 out...Im assuming your at 60dtp.?

Regular customer my standard billling is 45 days...The Brokers 30..

If a broker is late by 5 days.....I start the calling/threats and comestables
My customers? 60 out then I'll get hasty....

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yeah 60 days total. not brokered. this particular customer has a bit of a history of lets just say paying when they feel like it but iv occasionally hauled loads for them for years and they do always eventually pay. but with there history i only haul for them if it pays really well and even then i wont do many loads for them in a short period of time so it wont hurt as bad when they don't pay on time. i bill on 30 day invoice on standard. definitely time to start putting a little pressure on them. frequency of my calls increase the longer past due the payment is.

had one customer took over 6 months to pay me, by the end of it was calling twice per day. i know some other owner ops that never collected there money i did.

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Tough break

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Especially unfortunate that this forum has members who continually hype a company having never worked with/ or for said company.

@mp4694330 marek I hope this situation is resolved: you've struck me as a standup guy in our convos outside of here.

Nothing worse than doing the work and then not getting the payment.
Makes a man get upset.

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@mp4694330 any updates? Has Bill contacted you since creating this thread?

HalpinUout, Jun 12, 2016

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