Fueling when heavy, will it add weight to the drives?

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by RayBlaszak, Apr 26, 2019.

  1. 4wayflashers

    4wayflashers Road Train Member

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    What is using the brake? While rolling 1-2 mph?
     
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  3. SteveScott

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    Diesel fuel weighs 7.15 pounds per gallon. If you're at 5/8 now at 34,000 on the drives, figure you can stop for an additional 50 gallons every 300 miles to maintain your current weight. That's assuming that you get around 6 miles per gallon.

    Fixed 5th wheels are generally for saving weight. My previous employer had a fixed 5th wheels with aluminum skid plates on all of their trucks. As long as you were legal on the drives, you could never go over weight on the steers.
     
  4. Oxbow

    Oxbow Road Train Member

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    Yes, on the trailer, using the trailer brake.

    For the tractor dolly down, dump suspension, and gently slide fifth wheel with no weight on it.
     
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  5. Moose1958

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    I have moved slides that way both 5th wheel and tandems many times. This is why I always loved having a trolley brake handle. The problem though is when them things is stuck. I once had a 5th wheel I finally had to call for service on. Sometimes especially when you have beer bottles loaded and they are top heavy you can't just pop the brakes while rolling like that.
     
  6. Buckeye 60

    Buckeye 60 Road Train Member

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    I rarely slide 5th wheel should be able to get what you need sliding tandems or proper loading
     
  7. Farmerbob1

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    I have used the tactic of getting a trailer up to a few miles per hour then hitting the brakes. Sometimes it even works.

    In fact, that is the one single thing that trailer brake levers are good for, IMHO.

    BUT not all trucks have independent trailer brake controls. Mine does not.

    I have also used railroad tracks and speed bumps to help break loose trailer tandems.

    Sometimes though, nothing works except using chocks or a curb.

    I suppose you could use chains and a big ### chunk of concrete or another truck's tow hook, but that would almost certainly be too much trouble.

    Doing tandem movements on significant inclines can be helpful too. If one exists.

    The BIGGEST problem with simply using inertia for shifting stuck tandems is that the harder you have to work the tandems with an inertia method, the higher your chances are that you are going to shift the load inside the trailer.

    Your mileage may vary on that. Scatter a load of early season strawberries, and someone will be very unhappy with you.
     
  8. wore out

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    If a guy loaded with full tanks made sure his weight was right before rolling he would be set. Just a thought
     
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  9. Oxbow

    Oxbow Road Train Member

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    Scatter the clutch or driveline is better?

    This goes back to what @REO6205 was getting at in regard to not putting sliding 5th wheels on. Remove the trailer brake lever...one more tool gone.
     
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  10. RayBlaszak

    RayBlaszak Light Load Member

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    Just bought 50 gallons of fuel and kept rolling. As far as the 5th wheel is concerned it's not my choice. It's what the company purchased and I get paid to drive. I am aware of the APU exemption however I try not to use that as an excuse to be stupid. My question was more or less answered.
     
  11. Moose1958

    Moose1958 Road Train Member

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    My god man you are making it sound like putting a little stress on a driveline rips it apart just by doing it. If I can't trust my driveline to pull 80K up cabbage I need to either get another truck or get out of trucking!

    You have made your point! How about easing off a bit!
     
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