Get paid .92cpm or a percentage?

Discussion in 'Swift' started by DickJones, Oct 13, 2010.

  1. Injun

    Injun Road Train Member

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    All of this applies to straight o/o's as well. If a leased truck with Swift is down for an extended time, you can be put in a loaner until repairs are complete. Also, there is breakdown pay. It's not perfect and it doesn't equal running pay, but it's better than living off your bank account like o/o's do. If you want all those benefits, the only way you can go is company. That's too restricting for many of us.
     
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  3. jlkklj777

    jlkklj777 20 Year Truckload Veteran

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    I just checked the lease details for Swifts program;







    Mileage Charge: Loaded, empty and unauthorized deadhead miles in excess of 11,000 a month will be calculated # $0.09 cpm, and assessed to the owner operator’s settlement monthly. NOTE: This is a deductible expense.


    This is going to be very expensive to a runner. This is another reason "lease" plans are a bad idea. Whether it be a car or a truck lease. Over mileage fees will eat your lunch if you are not careful.
     
  4. The Challenger

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    Thats another reason why being an o/o and leasing onto Swift is better. What if Swift dont give you miles???? It seems like Swift is controlling your lease and could set you up to fail.

    KH
     
  5. jlkklj777

    jlkklj777 20 Year Truckload Veteran

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    From a company standpoint it is more profitable to keep a lease operator than it is to hire a company driver.

    Lease ops pay for the fuel, truck payment, insurance, maintenance, taxes etc.

    Company drivers get benefits plus the company has to pay half the medicare/ss tax on EVERY employee plus workers comp insurance.

    Under Swifts lease it is indeed a "lease." No ownership transfer option until the end of the contract. Should you try to refinance early they have a clause that kicks in and you will be penalized for the early payoff.

    No reason for Swift to "set you up to fail" they already hold all the cards. Better to run the dog crapola out of these guys and take their cut off the top of each load.

    Swift knows few drivers will have the wherewithall to buy this truck at the end of the contract and so will be able to either lease that truck again or sell it on the open market.

    It is sad that companies dangle a new truck in front of these fellas and give them a bit more speed to convince them to become a slave to that truck. The new guys seem to be lining up for the chance to shackle themselves to this program.

    A better plan would have been to save 10 to 20k for an emergency fund then "buy" a truck through a private dealer, person, 3rd party vendor. This would allow the new o/o to run as many miles as he sees fit without a "penalty" being assessed.

    Having your own truck will give you more freedom to choose loads or companies to work for. With most Lease plans you are locked into that carrier for the duration.

    The OP had his mind made up to go with this lease plan before he ever began this thread. He was hoping to get some support for his decision and perhaps make a better choice for the pay plan. The answer to that question is the percentage deal will be the better option. At least the lease operator will have a chance to share in any freight rate increase that comes to pass during the length of this plan.
     
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  6. DickJones

    DickJones Road Train Member

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    Swift does not 'set up lease drivers to fail'. The ones who fail, are the ones who take weekends off, turn down any load over 30k lbs, and anything that isnt 1,000 miles or more. If you ask the ones who failed, and then ask their driver managers, you'll probably end up with two different reasons why they failed.

    lets not forget, the big reason why most anybody fails a L/O regardless of company, is that they fail to remember that they are now in a businesss. And you cannot go blow $200 a day (or week for that matter) on items that might not contribute to your truck and turning a profit.

    Next time you roll down the road, for 50 miles, count the number of trucks (ok...maybe estimate) then keep in mind who has the most trailers. Odds are you'll see more Swift and Schneider trailers.
     
  7. DickJones

    DickJones Road Train Member

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    what you fail to disclose, is that this .09cpm over 11k/mo. might be deducted out of a settlement, but it is also deducted off the balloon....should you opt to buy out the truck. so go ahead...run your az off....but make sure you plan to buy out the truck at the end.
     
  8. scottied67

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    What is the definition of an Unauthorized Deadhead Mile?
     
  9. FLATBED

    FLATBED Road Train Member

    Driving 200 miles to your favorite fishing hole
     
  10. ironpony

    ironpony Road Train Member

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    Bah! If it's my truck - I authorize myself to drive 200 miles to my favorite fishing hole! They can stick that "Unauthorized" stuff where the sun don't shine!
     
  11. scottied67

    scottied67 Road Train Member

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    There are 52 trucks in this repo lot but there are thousands of satisfied lessees out there making it happen every day. These trucks piled up like this just make it look worse than it is.
     

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