Going OTR with CDL permit. Legal?

Ummmm, what I am saying is, they have their own schools, and after they train you, you're sent out with a trainer and you schedule an appointment to test at a DMV in your home state. They do not accept grads from outside schools.

 

From what I'm looking at on there website. Seems like the School is different from the Company. I see that you must go to the school but it seems like when you graduate and have your cdl that's when they put you with a trainer and you get on the pay roll. What the op is talking about is skipping the school part to go straight to hauling loads. I don't know if he is going to get paid or not. But if he is. Then he is an Employee driving a truck for profit with a cdl learners permit.

Now if you have worked for Millis. Then when do you get put on the pay roll after the cdl test or while you are waiting for the appointment in your state after graduation. I can see where you are coming from if like you said. They need to take the test in their own state because of residency restrictions. I just don't think they do the whole 6 weeks of training on a learners permit.

 

They shoot for the road test at week 3 with the trainer. They are on the payroll from the time they leave with the trainer, and hauling freight. I was always curious how companies with their own schools handled the residency issue. I trained for U.S Xpress back in 99-2000 when they had their school in Medway, Ohio. Each of their grads had an Ohio license before they hit the road, reguardless of where they lived. Millis's school is called MTI, but is very much a part of the company. They only train for Millis, and as I said, they dont take grads from other schools.

 

your best bet is to run two sets of logbooks and get him in the driver seat and you in the sleeper if you enter any scales or get pulled over. but I didn't tell you that. I did that with a buddy when I was 13 and 14.

 

Incorrect. I myself participated in commerce while on a permit with a licensed driver/instructor. Pulled a load from Philadelphia to Carlisle, PA while participating in Schneider National Carrier's driving academy in Carlisle. It wasn't INTERstate commerce, but it was indeed commerce. And I have yet to find a regulation at the Federal level restricting permit holders from participating in interstate commerce as long as they are abiding by the restrictions of the state of issue, or the state the permit holder is currently operating within. General rule of thumb is that the fully licensed driver must be awake and aware during the permit holder's time of driving, which would place the license holder on line 4 "on duty-not driving."

 

What England recruiter told me:
Go to school for 3 weeks. Get permit on day 3.
Learn rules, regs and all about truck. I asked about driving, he said no driving, but the students would learn
The truck from one end to the other.
Then would "Team" drive ( ea. gets .12 mi) for 80000 miles.
Go back and test and get license.
A new driver would get .24 mile and could drive as many as 2400 miles a week.
Wow! Imagine that!
I'd put a couple smily faces here if my phone had any...<bg>
Mary

 

in illinois you can drive with a permit if a driver is with you and to travel to other states you need to be over 21 years of age if you are under 21 you can only drive in the state even if you already got your lic

 

At prime they actually sent us out with a permit for 100 hours. As far as I recall there were no restrictions. I drove days/night and whenever the truck moved I was driving.

 

Learn something new everyday. Thanks folks