Got a written warning from safety for having the visor down

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by Darkstar455, Apr 5, 2025.

  1. lual

    lual Road Train Member

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    Some other suggestions:
    • Don't quit your current driving job -- until you have another one that has accepted you...and you have an agreed upon start date
    • Make sure your next job/carrier has a more reasonable sun visor use policy
    -- L
     
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  3. Judge

    Judge Road Train Member

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    Doesn’t mean quit now. Means start looking. Tell them why. “I’m looking for a job because the desk jockey in safety wrote me up for driving against the sun with the sun visor down.”
    Or just park between 0600-0800 and 1730-1930 ish see how they’d like that. And explain you’re gonna do it since safety has a problem with using sun visors.
     
  4. Trashtrucker1707

    Trashtrucker1707 Road Train Member

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    I have a 25 anthem and the visor covers the camera as well, I only use when I need it, but the reality of it is you NEED it, how in the heck do they justify a written warning for that? I’ve been with my current employer 13 years, long before elogs, i remember being the last truck in the fleet to get one, then they lowered hiring standards and our safety score got out of control resulting in cameras, I hate them with a passion but I’m learning to adapt. I would advise like others, start looking elsewhere for places that don’t use them, or if you like where work try to learn how to adapt to what they’re looking for, as petty as it may be.
     
  5. JolliRoger

    JolliRoger Road Train Member

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    These people would be too hard to please for me to have worked for.
     
  6. REO6205

    REO6205 Road Train Member

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    @Darkstar455 ...
    You got a written warning with no verbal warning first? Maybe I'm behind the times but don't most trucking companies give out a verbal warning first?
     
  7. Off tracking

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    Management is getting other people to do work for you. The trucking industry is full of bad management. Bad management has been hoodwinked by tech salespeople that have made them promises about their AI safety systems that are simply untrue. Tech does this deliberately because they are lazy and dishonest. They have deployed crude unsatisfactory devices into fleets to use the drivers as non-consent guinea pigs in the development and refinement of the systems. Many drivers will lose their jobs/ be run off. No one in tech or management feels the slightest bit of shame doing this to innocent drivers (that produce all their revenue) because their end goal is the elimination of drivers. You are expected to cooperate with your own extermination. If you don't the people with the rainbow hair will call you nazis. They have no self awareness or sense of irony.
    Can anyone in the trucking industry produce any hard data showing any safety improvements per mile driven with the use of these systems ? No, they can not. Are they going to stop ? No they are not going to stop until they ruin everything.
     
  8. Concorde

    Concorde Road Train Member

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    Send them a written warning back.

    Don’t understand why drivers put up with this crap.
     
  9. Darkstar455

    Darkstar455 Bobtail Member

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    The thing about it is I'm honestly not even doing it on purpose, I sometimes just forget about it, especially on days driving for so long, the camera in my truck just goes off at random times, for nothing. and I guess they see the visor down at times, it's not down all the time. Just when I forget to put it back up, some dude from called me like 8 months ago and I dident know who it was, and just asked if I have been told about company policy and I told him no because I wasn't, so i guess that's what they count as a verbal warning.
     
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  10. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    Every company may be hiring SOME drivers, they are not hiring all drivers in great numbers because freight is slow and rates are terrible. It's not still 2020. Reality doesn't change just because someone is desperate to leave a company. If you were going to leave you should have left BEFORE the warning. Now you have the warning and quitting or staying doesn't change that. The speed of the trucks is irrelevant. In 28 years I only drove 2 trucks that COULD go over 67 MPH on flat ground. I spent 26 years stuck in the pack with fleet spec trucks. ALL DRIVERS driving "fast trucks" waste more time than they can possibly save or make up by stopping multiple times per day. So your fast truck might be able to get from A to B 30-75 minutes faster than my slow truck but you will spend 45-120 minutes in one or more breaks/trashing around the truck stop thinking you can make up that wasted time and you cannot do it, you just don't measure the time closely enough to notice the difference between theory and reality. I drove for years from TN to Los Angeles and would be passed multiple times per day for 2 or 3 days by the same flashy/fast truck and still beat him to the truck stop in Barstow, CA because I just didn't stop except for the briefest bathroom break. I even stopped and used a real bathroom instead of wetting a tire and dashing off. This happened over years, not once. Fast truck just burn more fuel than slow trucks unless they have secret roads with nothing but fast trucks, which they don't. I've heard all of the excuses. I've made plenty of excuses.

    Nothing in company policy or the federal regs requires you AGREE or UNDERSTAND or LIKE them in order to be subject to them. You either comply or you don't comply.

    You can tell yourself any story you want, and I assume you are the safest and most professional driver ever to have a CDL but if the company policy is you touch your nose before turning left, or you don't block the camera with your visor, you follow policy or you leave one way or another. To leave now is leaving worse off over a small thing which exaggerates the affect of that small thing in a slow hiring market.
     
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  11. Darkstar455

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    I kinda agree I guess if you have a bad record, but I'm pretty sure i can just say what it was for, if they ask, my driving record in general is clean other then this i guess. including my cleaning house, and now I have over 4 years experience, I see a ridiculous amount of job postings on indeed and there constantly adding to it daily. it's not about going fast, it's about going the speed limit.
     
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