Got let go today.... Now what? Update...see my latest post.

COBB2070 · May 3, 2019

SteveScott said: ↑

Have a few beer then celebrate. Then find a job doing something other than trucking. Even flipping burgers will pay better.
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Going to spend the weekend at Cabrillo Beach in San Pedro.

SteveScott · May 3, 2019

COBB2070 said: ↑

Going to spend the weekend at Cabrillo Beach in San Pedro.
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Watch out for floaters, turds and bodies.

Powder Joints · May 4, 2019

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So last night my dispatcher texted me to see the head of safety at 9am this morning. When I got there, he asked me why I turned down a load on Wednesday. I explained that I was uncomfortable with the "HazMat/TWIC required" in the comments section of the BOL (See the full story here... Lithium batteries and hazmat...). He repeated that the dispatcher told me to disregard that, and how to ensure the batteries were packed safely. I explained that I don't have a Hazmat endorsement, and even if what dispatch said were true, I wouldn't know. He says okay, let's move on. He asks about a few other loads I've turned down in the past 2 months (5 to be exact), I explained that if I were to take those loads, I would been out of drive time either before making the delivery, or just afterwards, and they would end up having to pay for a room when I'm just an hour or two from the yard (as non-CDL running local under 150mi in CA I can drive 14/ on duty 16). So he said, and I quote here, "Well that's just poor time management skills on your part.". Really? I think the fact that I know when my time runs out, and the time it takes to make a run is the perfect example of time management. Then he insinuated that there are ways to extend my drive/HOS hours if I were "creative" about it. At this point I know I'm fired without him saying it, so I said, "You mean break the law", and he said I'd never tell you that. Then I explained that my dispatcher has, and then showed him the proof. Text messages from my dispatcher asking if I wanted him to log me "off duty" so I can stay out longer. Or the one that said "...if you start your log after the drop off, you'd have that much more drive time." I always run the KeepTruckin app even when I'm not required to keep a log, so I keep myself legal. I like driving and plan on getting my CDL-A this summer and drive OTR for a while then maybe regional. I asked him to put in writing the reason for my dismissal and he refused saying only it was for poor time management skills. I then told him if he fought my UC, I'd report them to the CA Labor Board and CHP/DOT. How do I explain this on job applications? Do I just put down I quit, and hope the company only provides dates of employment, or di I tell the truth, and look like I'm #### talking the company that fired me? Sorry this is so long.
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Any one that wants and requires you to run illegal you want to get away from anyways, good riddens to them now move on to a real driving job.

COBB2070 · May 4, 2019

Talked to 2 other drivers I know that were both let go today as well as 3 who still work there (for now) Seems they let 20-30 out of 150 drivers go today. One of the drivers that's still there said they lost 2 dedicated routes at the end of April and another said when they came in tonight, all the heavy haul trucks and equipment were gone from the yard.

Antinomian · May 4, 2019

ZVar said: ↑

There is no legal reason that is true. Legally they can state anything they want. Any falsehoods are illegal, but that's true for anyone, not just former employers (libel laws.)
Here's a primmer.
What can former employers legally say about me?
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Defamation is a tort, not a crime. Falsehoods are usually not illegal. Exception are lying to a cop or lying under oath, etc. They can be the basis for a tort (i.e. a civil suit), but not if the liar indicates that they are just expressing an opinion.

When I left Swift I applied for and got a copy of the DriverFacts report they had published about me (Swift wasn't using DAC at that time). The report had my employment dates, my eligibility of rehire, a list of my drug tests with results, and a crash history indicating dates, preventable/non-preventable, and DOT reportable yes/no. So yes, there are other things your employer may report besides just hire dates.

Ridgeline · May 5, 2019

Guys there is the laws and then there are court cases that are decided.

A former employer can answer questions about work performance but most of the idiots who answer the phone seem to not get what they can't say.

What can't be said is anything false. Work performance is also ok but most of what is said is off limits because of the lack of standards used to judge someone.

If there is an ongoing dispute of something in the employees records it is off limits.

Now you all can say I'm wrong but I have actually sued a couple of former employers for false information. I learned through that what I can and can't say, the judge was clear in each case what has been decided in the past. On top of that there are investigation firms - lawyers - who will act like potential employers to catch the former employers and sue them for false statements.

Trucker Kev Paid Tourist · May 5, 2019

what great company was this?
you were fired so it really won't matter

Antinomian · May 5, 2019

Ridgeline said: ↑

...but I have actually sued a couple of former employers for false information.
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Out of curiosity, how did the court(s) determine damages in these cases? Or were you just asking for injunctions?

COBB2070 · May 6, 2019

Trucker Kev Paid Tourist said: ↑

what great company was this?
you were fired so it really won't matter
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Got an email this morning from the VP of operations clarifying that I was "laid off subject to recall" because I emailed HR on Friday and requested a written explanation of why I was let go. The brief explanation was that a downturn in business required a "streamlining" of operations and discontinuing of the heavy haul division. Have to see where it goes from there.

mpd240 · May 6, 2019

If flipping burgers paid better I'd look into it. The money I make is better than most where I live.

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