Gotta love DOT, set up at rest area in the middle of the night.

jbob1 · Jan 18, 2019

Yeah NYS dot can be nazis sometime, they will look for anything to write u up so some bureaucrat kind say look at all these violations are boys are finding and protecting the public from these outlaw thugs driving death machines on our highways. I got wrote up for a broken triangle good thing they caught that I might of killed someone

Zeviander · Jan 18, 2019

Don't the state DOT's maintain the rest areas? Wouldn't that give them jurisdiction to use them as a means to enforce the FMCSR's?

roadtech · Jan 18, 2019

Zeviander said: ↑

Don't the state DOT's maintain the rest areas? Wouldn't that give them jurisdiction to use them as a means to enforce the FMCSR's?
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The state does maintain the rest areas ,but they are just that "Rest Areas" ,they should not be in there in the middle of the night "doing sneak attacks " on sleeping drivers and taking up spaces needed by drivers looking to park and take there 10 hour break in the middle of the night. There is enough fixed scale houses they can keep open 24 hours a day if they want ,and set up inspection areas in rest areas in the day time if they want . The middle of the night surprise inspections in rest areas are " Gungo ,over top tactics" by clowns looking to write tickets to generate revenue and rack up overtime . It's not about safety.
Not too many industries have to deal with this non sense with out probable cause of something specific going on in that area or time of night which is illegal or dangerous. I used to own restaurants and had to deal with health inspectors and fire inspectors. They always came in during normal business hours , never barging in at 2am for
a random "gotcha " inspection . New York DOT has been ramping up this middle of the night inspections in rest areas over the last year ,and its highly coincidental with the hiring of 160 more DOT cops with the federal money gave to them by the federal government to implement the ELD mandate. I'm sure those Federal funds have been burned through,now they have to find additional ways to pay for these newly hired clowns .

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TallJoe · Jan 18, 2019

Zeviander said: ↑

Don't the state DOT's maintain the rest areas? Wouldn't that give them jurisdiction to use them as a means to enforce the FMCSR's?
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Are you saying it is ok for them to disturb resting, legally parked drivers for no apparent reason? I hope not, because otherwise it would be not much different from the Third Reich's loyal citizens mentality.

TallJoe · Jan 18, 2019

roadtech said: ↑

The state does maintain the rest areas ,but they are just that "Rest Areas" ,they should not be in there in the middle of the night "doing sneak attacks " on sleeping drivers and taking up spaces needed by drivers looking to park and take there 10 hour break in the middle of the night. There is enough fixed scale houses they can keep open 24 hours a day if they want ,and set up inspection areas in rest areas in the day time if they want . The middle of the night surprise inspections in rest areas are " Gungo ,over top tactics" by clowns looking to write tickets to generate revenue and rack up overtime . It's not about safety.
Not too many industries have to deal with this non sense with out probable cause of something specific going on in that area or time of night which is illegal or dangerous. I used to own restaurants and had to deal with health inspectors and fire inspectors. They always came in during normal business hours , never barging in at 2am for
a random "gotcha " inspection . New York DOT has been ramping up this middle of the night inspections in rest areas over the last year ,and its highly coincidental with the hiring of 160 more DOT cops with the federal money gave to them by the federal government to implement the ELD mandate. I'm sure those Federal funds have been burned through,now they have to find additional ways to pay for these newly hired clowns .

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I can't help to view those DOT cops as real cops wannabes, real career losers just like the traffic court judges - underachievers. I may not be right, I am sure I am not and I do realize there must be DOT enforcement but for the life of me I can't help the feeling of disdain towards them.

BUMBACLADWAR · Jan 18, 2019

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There's got to be some type of regulations put on DOT. I stopped for the night in the East Branch rest area
On 17 West in NY about 8pm last night . It was pretty full but I found a spot towards the end of the rest area
Near the exit . About Midnite DOT rolls in and sets up and starts inspecting trucks in the middle of the night.
Now this isn't a scale house ,it's a rest area with bathrooms . They do this pretty regularly and it's one of the reasons I don't like to stop there for the night. They must of woke up some trucks and told them to leave,because it was full and no place for them to set up when I went to sleep.I woke up around 5am to use the restroom and I started walking to the bathroom ,seen them a few trucks away inspecting them and just walked back to my truck and left. I keep my truck and paperwork up to par,I just don't like being F#%+%#
With,who does. I spoke to a friend of mine who got pulled in and he said they were in there at Midnite,and they are going to start heavily enforcing the ELD requirements again and that's why they were in there.They kind of backed off for awhile after heavily enforcing it when it was implemented. With overnite parking being tougher to find because of the ELD's ,and driver fatigue being a big safety concern ,do we really need
These clowns storming in in the middle of the nite like some swat team and harassing drivers trying to get some sleep,or taking up spots in the middle of the nite that could be used by an exhausted driver. There really should be some type of regulations on these clowns. They claim safety ,we know it's all about revenue and justifying there existence . I was coming down route 81 at 10:30 pm at nite last week and it was snowing and about 10 degrees out. They had the lights on at the Whitney point rest area and they're were about 6 DOT vehicles in there inspecting trucks and 2 chase cars at the entrance . Absolute over the top nonsense and a definite safety hazard. I know NY hired an additional 160 new DOT cops with the money the federal government gave them to implement the ELD mandate on top of the 600 they already have ,but this gung-ho in the middle of the night ######## in rest areas is ridiculous.
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I used to get Caught in these Traps" in West Virginia",Draggin my Arse"...Way Too Tired to Drive..and I Knew It.Coast into the Rest Area.Oh,Geez Theres Hillbilly Dot Welcome Wagon here! WTF!! Yes,if they Failed to "Shake Me Down ( While I was still Moving). Im taking my 10 off.I Cant paticipate in an "On Duty Inspection" im in Sleeper Berth.JMO

BUMBACLADWAR · Jan 18, 2019

jbob1 said: ↑

Yeah NYS dot can be nazis sometime, they will look for anything to write u up so some bureaucrat kind say look at all these violations are boys are finding and protecting the public from these outlaw thugs driving death machines on our highways. I got wrote up for a broken triangle good thing they caught that I might of killed someone
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Yes,one Time they told me "These air lines Could Rub Together and cause a Leak". Was there Any evidence of "Rubbing". No..,but,they say "Well they Could".Lol

Zeviander · Jan 18, 2019

TallJoe said: ↑

Are you saying it is ok for them to disturb resting, legally parked drivers for no apparent reason? I hope not, because otherwise it would be not much different from the Third Reich's loyal citizens mentality.
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TallJoe · Jan 18, 2019

It had to. Now when on ELOGS, I often avoid rest areas for the very reason of them (DOT) resetting my sleeper time, forcing me to stay there for 8 more hours after the official inspection. I would not possibly imagine a good reason for a random inspection in the middle of a night while the truck is parked and the driver does not appear as a shady character.

Sympathizing or even justifying such actions, I suspect to be a result of some
"state knows better" indoctrination.

mitmaks · Jan 19, 2019

I think truckers should stand up for themselves and defend themselves, even if it requires physical force.

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