Has anyone ever seen evidence of the driver shortage?

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by Midnightrider909, Dec 15, 2016.

  1. Philippopolis

    Philippopolis Bobtail Member

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    No one is importing driver's from abroad. There's no way to get visa for US , just because you want to be a truck driver. I am a immigrant my self. My opinion is that the so called driver shortage and all problems in the industry comes from this mega fleet. Hiring new drivers for les pay and if something happens they don't have problems with a insurance, because they are self insured. This leads to taking
    the loads for les money due to less expenses , and so on and so on...
     
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  3. Midnightrider909

    Midnightrider909 Road Train Member

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    You need an H2-B visa and a company here that has agreed to hire you. Check the internet. Search H2-B.
     
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  4. Philippopolis

    Philippopolis Bobtail Member

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    I checked the web and you are right. I just don't know how they can get a CDL? In the Dmv's they ask for Green Card or US passport , so it doesn't make sense. Or maybe DL from some countries like Mexico / Canada are valid in US .
     
  5. Benfica1982

    Benfica1982 Bobtail Member

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    You mean the guys that only drive on dry pavement and warm weather , who wear bath shoes and shorts while they fill their truck and so forth at a customer , the ones who can't comprehend the rand McNally commercial driver Atlas and only depend on a gps, the ones who don't know that we have a way of doing things out here ... A etiquette we have amongst our neighbors .... The ones who are only out here to make a penny and have no true respect or passion for the industry what to speak of their truck ,...
    Sad to say this is the new breed of driver fellow neighbor .
     
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  6. ethos

    ethos Road Train Member

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    Lol, God I love that term "new breed". It used to be all sunshine and puppies.
     
  7. Toomanybikes

    Toomanybikes Road Train Member

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    You know the brain trust at the ATA and the mega-crap companies have been working on this driver shortage thing since 1980. You think those geniuses of industry and business could have solved this problem by now. After all, that is why they make the big bucks isn't it?

    Here is an report the ATA made in 1997 about the subject:http://www.atri-online.org/research/results/musical_chairs.pdf

    You think in 20 years time they could come up with a press report that reads different then the crap they put out today. But the BS worked back then and apparently the exact same BS works the same right now.

    According to them they been having a truck driver shortage since the 1980. I wonder why that is? What is so special about 1980? Is it deregulation and the rise of mega-crap trucking companies? No it couldn't be.
     
  8. Toomanybikes

    Toomanybikes Road Train Member

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    You better check your facts.
    http://cis.org/north/latest-visa-mill-owner-and-h-2b-truck-drivers-minnesota
    http://www.landlinemag.com/Story.aspx?StoryID=22664#.WFRSdrGZPXE
    http://www.wnd.com/2006/07/37119/
    https://www.avvo.com/legal-answers/is-it-posible-to-get-cdl-with-h2b-visa--1464158.html

    This is done all the time. Claim there is a driver shortage and bring people in on H2-b since that is a requirement of the visa. Corporate farms are the biggest abuser of this but Chicagoland mafia types have been caught doing this also.

    Until recently, WA had no requirement of citizenship to receive a CDL. In fact the state would hire a interpreter at taxpayer's expense to have you immigrant take the CDL test. NY, IL, FL, and CA have all at one time had similar programs going on along with scams of those programs.

    Then you got NAFTA which the ATA lobbied hard for cross boarder provisions for foreign truck drivers, because you know their is a shortage. Teamsters are the only ones that have fought to prevent that from happening as of yet. ATA's biggest supporter, Swift of course, bought up Trans-Mex the biggest trucking firm in Mexico in preparation for overcoming their 'driver shortage' with immigrants.
     
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  9. Midnightrider909

    Midnightrider909 Road Train Member

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    I don't know all the part
    It's a lot cheaper for the Mega crap companies to Lobby Congress to allow H2-B visas than to actually pay their workers a decent wage and treat them like real people instead of just a number. Driver wages in this industry will never go up as long as they are able to get foreigners in here to do the job for less than an American would need to justify the sacrifice. I remember on the campaign trail Trump was mentioning that he was going to look into H2-B but haven't heard him mention it lately.
     
  10. Philippopolis

    Philippopolis Bobtail Member

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    Well , there may be gap in the system somewhere. I don't know . All I know is that I don't owe anything to anybody . When I got my CDL , I went to school for 3 weeks , passed the exams and road test and this was all in English. Last time I went to the DMV was this summer to renew my DL and they asked me for a proof of legal presents as they called it .
     
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  11. Sportster2000

    Sportster2000 Road Train Member

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    Yes, I am experiencing it every day at work.
     
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