Hello, I have a question.

I can see your thinking, but 9 out of 10 times a guy going down a hill is coasting, and it would be the same, at least I think it would. At any rate I do not consider a guy being out of control just because he hit 80, even if it is in a governed truck, now against company regs, would be a whole different story, and he got busted.
There was a time, when most of our miles were at 80 and even more, were we out of control? I hope not, and never had anything bad happen at those speeds.

 

I agree with you.
What I dont agree with is companies chastizing drivers for not jamming the brakes so as not to exceed 1 mph over their stupid [IMO] mandated speed limit. What for?

Starmac do you jam the brakes on going down that big hill when it's snowing?

 

Some companies, like Swift, have speed rules.
You can either follow them or find a different company. Or Swift will force the decision.

So many people come down on Swift, no matter what they do.
People complain about Swift safety, but when Swift takes an active role in trying to control that safety people complain abut that as well.
Can't have it both ways, ###### if you do and ###### if you don't.

And you know...
'Dammed', if used in the proper context is NOT a swear word.
It is a PROPER word that has a particular meaning!

 

Does that include constructive termination?

 

In the old days on certain hills (Spotted Wolf east of San Diego comes to mind) I'll see a mile of flat straight run out and let her fall the last half mile past the last ramp. Airflow cools the brakes and just let her run a little. We will settle down soon enough when that hill was cleared and behind us.

 

I don't understand.

If you say "I was coasting...." and then say that you were in gear, you were not coasting.

I am not here to be difficult. If gravity pulled you faster than what your company allows, then throw the Jacobs on and add service braking to get it back under.

 

there IS such a thing as "controlled braking" and "stab braking", to rein in your speed going down a hill or mountain, either with or without a jake brake.

so you would not have had to "slam on the brakes" as you claim.

and you been driving since 2017 you say..????

yeah, they will DAC you and most likely they will inform the new employer about you being fired, in fact, on all job applications i have seen, that IS one of the many questions...."have you ever been FIRED from a job and if so, EXPLAIN WHY".

if you lie, and when they call for a reference, and you do not jot down that you were fired, then you WILL NOT be hired for lying on an application. read the disclaimer at the bottom of any job application about being truthful and how they can deny you a job for falsifying an application. read also where you can face charges and penalties for do that.

as you are basically (as i recall being told) filling out a federal document, and SIGNING it, attesting that you are telling the truth. that's what a log is as well, either paper, or electronic, a FEDERAL document, once you sign off on it. (until you sign those documents, nothing can happen to you, as you did not attest to the truthfulness of them)

you violated the company rules and by-laws, and you continue to deny this and try to pass off your firing as something you do not deserve.....well...

don't blame the company(s) for being ignorant as you call them.

a violation on your part, does not constitute a violation on thier part.

good luck.

 

DAC (and for that matter most all 3rd party sites like DAC) has a summary page. In some cases, this is all a carrier looks at. First is the dates you drove for a carrier. Next is why you left (if not the present employer) and rehire status. Generally speaking, one termination is not enough to cause the average driver any problems with an average carrier. The thing to watch out for though is that last part, re-hire status. You get dinged by a carrier with a do not rehire you are going to have some problems with § 391.23, and DAC is the least of your problems. § 391.23 MANDATES a prospective new carrier to do a check on your history with DOT-regulated employers for up to 10 years. That carrier then is mandated to create a driver qualification file and add this information to that file. The § 391.2x series of rules are so serious that when the FMCSA (or a state) does a safety audit these files are some of the first things they look at. I have personally spoken to safety critters that have told me they wet themselves when approached by FMCSA safety auditors. If the FMCSA finds missing or sloppy compliance with any of the rules in § 391.2x they will fine a carrier. @brian991219 deals with this as well. In fact, most anybody that deals with compliance has.

If you are fired by a carrier for ANY reason most will forward this forward. However, I find it interesting that the regulatory guidance to § 391.23 says a carrier is not required to do that.