I thing they just change the model number with changes to the body. It was T600 then changed to T660 now it’s T680. I suppose the T800 will be replaced with the T880. A much nicer looking truck in my opinion.
Hoping to have a new KW ordered in the new year.....what do I expect?
Discussion in 'Kenworth Forum' started by RossoRacer, Dec 27, 2021.
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If you want to be an owner operator though, then try for it. Personally I think it’s a smart idea to get new or very close to new trucks. I had an older pre emission truck and it was a fairly good one but still all the knit pick problems and down time about did me in. Now I have a much newer one and don’t have nearly as much down time.
Also a newer truck helps your taxes and trust me you will be paying taxes. If you don’t figure something out with budgeting for taxes you’ll be out of business when March rolls around.
Hopefully it works out for you. Most banks require 20% down or collateral amounting to that. Most insurance companies want a fairly large deposit down for getting started. And you’ll probably be paying for the fuel for at least a couple weeks before you start being paid. Upfront expenses can be kind of high, but lots of us are making a decent living with our own truck.
Talk with a banker, a CPA tax accountant, whoever you plan to use for insurance, and your boss man about how steady the work will be. Also it might be worth using a company to do your MC and DOT number for you and file IFTA every quarter to save you some headache. Many of them are also a drug/alcoholic consortium so makes it convenient to have everything done at one place.Badmon Thanks this. -
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Most places I've seen from Arizona and Nevada to Michigan have regular unleaded in the $2.90-$3.15 range(Illinois maybe $3.50), and California $4.50-$5.75 depending which region and how popular a gas station. For diesel at truck stops, I'm seeing $3.50-$4.15 most places outside of California these days I think. I had commercial insurance on my personal vehicle for a year or so not long ago, thinking I could make oversize load escort work. So I know about how commercial insurance would work, just that it'd probably be higher cost for a $180,000-$200,000 Kenworth than it was for a Patriot worth maybe $7,000 if that to most folks. I'm aware it's a sketchy time to try starting a new business, especially in this industry, with Senator Sniffy having shut down Keystone after Obama told him to, after all the election fraud, but that's another story for another time.
What I'm trying to get an idea of for now is the expected cost of upkeep on such a truck if such a thing were to happen, so I can tell the company how much I'd need to charge if the truck were to be ordered and paperwork for LLC, USDOT#, MC#, etc., were all filed. There isn't an owner-op program here, but I was told by the director of operations that business could be done if I wanted to buy my own truck, get my own DOT number, and quote them a rate. Hence why I'm trying to figure out what it would cost to do all this, so that I can figure out what I'd need to charge them for my services if working independent, so that if they say that's too high a cost, I'm not already in with both feet, truck ordered and loan already withdrawn from a bank or credit union. -
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why would they even want to start now ?
I’m sure they are happy to offload
Your taxes and insurance and worry about the truck maintaince and repair .
Especially if you are willing to do it for less than anyone else .
but what if after you start doing that , someone else comes along and offers to do it for less ?
You’re gonna be out on your elbow , if they can save a nickel .
I’m Not saying don’t buy a truck and become an OO , I’m saying run the numbers carefully ,
what happens if you get sick or the truck breaks down and needs a $300 sensor that’s simply not available for weeks ?
That’s happened already to many people , which is why the $300 sensor is selling for $5000 on eBay.
What happens when the truck gets involved in an accident ? That’s not even your fault , but is sitting for weeks and weeks and weeks waiting for parts to get repaired.
Who’s gonna be making the truck payment and insurance payment while the truck isn’t generating any revenue ?
and have you gotten quoted for insurance on a new company and MC number ?
You have plenty of time to figure out all this though , if you order a truck now , it will be delivered about 24-30 Months from now . You won’t be getting it for at least 18 months , more likely gonna be about two and a half years . -
Gonna be looking into rates for insurance and loan payments when I get home, I think. Plan is to minimize sensors and give me, an actual driver, more control than most these days by not adding blind spot monitors, cruise control radar, automatic headlights, or lane keep crap. I'm wanting a Kenworth T800, not a Bentley Continental.
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