Hot shot max payload weight confusion!! help?

That's just what your truck can handle total. You can load 8500 on your actual truck. But, then the trailer comes into play and then you add the GVWR of that to the GVWR of your truck and thats what you can safely haul. But, it has to be within the parameters of what your axles can handle. From your steers, drives and trailer axles. Figuring out how to distribute it all is a whole different ball game though.

 

Correct you can cross a scale at 39k, assuming all axles are legal, & new hitch good for 30k.. Can you get away with it with current hitch, probably. Could snap off to 1st time you hit the brakes really hard in a panic stop..

You'll never find a GCVWR decal on the truck because it does not exist. Those tow ratings set by Ford are nothing but recommendations.

So unless you can some how upgrade that 25k rail system and goose ball your only going to legally be able to cross the scales at roughly 34k lbs. That's just me assuming 25k gross trailer weight & 9k lb truck weight. Maybe a little more, maybe a little less.

It all depends on the trooper or DOT man doing the inspection on how close they look over your coupling system. Also if your ever in an injury, or God forbid a fatality accident, they are going to go over your rig with a fine tooth comb looking for anything to put the blame on you, at fault or not. Also it's just not safe to run around pushing the limit, or exceeding & weight rating of the coupling components.

Is the rail system attached to one of those in bed puck systems? Maybe you can buy a 30k rated 5th wheel that will drop into those, & just move it to the next truck in 60k miles..??

Also, some of those rail mount goose ball plates are offset. They can be rotated 180° to move the ball closer to the cab, or closer to the tailgate. See if yours can be turned the other way, because I really don't like the lost of steer axle weight when the trailer is hooked up. You want all the weight you can get up there for maximum braking, & steering capability. You lost 220 lbs with only 2k lb of hitch load, so at that rate it could be as much as a 660lb loss when the hitch load is at 6k lbs..

 

I meant “licensed for” as in what you’re paying for in the registration or apportioned tag or however you have the vehicle registered. I can have a class 8 freightliner Cascadia and only apportion it for 50,000 pounds, then 50,000 pounds is all I can legally gross.

 

This is my last post on this thread as there are too many variables to give you a complete answer. I got that weight rating from an RV site. I will post a link from Ford for 2018 and you can go from there regarding year and model for GCWR.

****You are required to have a class A license for a GCWR over 26000 lbs.

https://www.ford.com/cmslibs/conten.../pdf/guides/18RV&TT_Ford_SuperDtyPU_Nov27.pdf

Edit: One last thing. I know you are eager to go make some money with that rig but you really need to make sure you are running safe and legal. If you get into an accident and are over weight or driving out of class the lawers will have a field day, even if you didn’t cause the accident.

 

Actually I did, hotshot people think that they can exceed the oem ratings of both the trailer and the truck because they have the plates rated at some high number, the plates are meaningless unless you get them so low, you get nailed for exceeding the plate limit.

 

One more thing for the OP.

I hate to bust your chops about this, but have you put a tape on your rig & checked the overall length?

I'm assuming once again & we all know how that works sometimes butt...

PJ tandem duals tend to have the longest neck in the industry, @ about 106". If your running a crewcab long box new Ford, that also has the longest wheelbase in the big 3 pickup arena @175.5" I believe. I'll also assume 39" overhang from center of steer tire to front bumper. Lets do some quick math..

Trailer--586"
Wheelbase--175"
Steer axle overhang--39"
This adds up to 800" or 66' 8" overall length. That is ticket territory my friend. Truck & trailer max length law is 65'. Not all state's go by this length law, but FL definitely does. States that enforce the law will generally let you slide a couple of inches, but not almost 2 feet..

This whole post might be useless though, as I "ASSumed" a few things..