How do you do split sleeper properly

There's 2 ways. 1st one (easiest) is figure out when you start your day-- let's say midnight. Count over 14 hours make a little dot. May not drive past 14 hours. Sometime before the 14 hours ends, take a 2 hour break. All driving time before and after the 2 hour break must add up to 11 hours or less.

OK now take an 8 hour break in the sleeper. Start a new 14 hour shift. However count the hours driving before the 8 hour break and subtract from 11. This is how many hours you may now drive before taking another 2 hour break. To break this cycle, take a 10 hour break or 34 hour break.

OK the 2nd way-- start your day, we'll say midnight again and make a mark 14 hours over. Sometime before the 14 hours ends, take an 8 hour sleeper break. When you come out, make your little 14 hour dot and move it 8 hours ahead. You may not drive past this dot. Take the hours you drove before the 8 and subtract from 11. Boom, this is how much time you have left to drive before taking a 2 hour break. Now get a new 14.

My question is what if the 8 hour sleeper break goes 1 hour past the original 14, do I only get 7 hours extension on the 14 instead of 8 correct?

Forgot to mention, Swift safety wants to see a postrip and pretrip before and after each little split break. For the 8 hour break they want to see 15 minutes of bathroom time after your posttrip and 15 minutes before your pretrip as well as 8 solid hours in the sleeper so that time will add up to a total of 9 hours off plus your 2 is 11 which is why they discourage split breaking. BUT nobody told the planners lol because it seems like most loads cannot be delivered without splitting.

 

Good explanation. Just understand that the driving time after the 2 hour break in your second example is 11 hours minus the hours driven before the 2-hour break (as in your first example. A full 10-hour break is required to put the driver back into a "normal" driving cycle. That is the part that catches most drivers (including me... once )

No, taking 8 in the sleeper "extends" your 14. You may drive 7 hours and then take 8 hours in the sleeper and if the sleeper time was the first part of a split-break (as in your second example), then you have 4 hours you can drive (assuming you haven't used more than 3 hours on-duty not driving or taken any other breaks which reduce your 14).

Like fuel receipts and scale tickets, when will they start requiring proof?

 

Download Drivers Daily Log. Perfect 8/2 (or 2/8) split everytime. Seriously, I never could get it right until I had that program. They do have a free trial version.

 

I lived on split sleeper with Prime.

Here's my way to explain it.

All hours since your last 10 or end of the legal break count against your 14. All driving hours since your last 10 or end of the legal break count against your 11. The 2-hr part counts against your 14. The 8-hr part does not count against your 14. Your 2 can be any combination of sleeper or off duty time. Your 8 must be continuous sleeper time.

So, you start the cycle: you pretrip and then drive 6 hours. You take a 2-hr. Right now, you have driven 6, used 8.25 of your 14. You have 5 hours of drive time left and 5.75 hours to do it in. You drive 3 hours and go to bed for 8 hours. When you are ready to roll, you do your 15-minute PTI. As of right now, you have 7 hours of drive time available and 9.75 hours to do it in. You are counting the hours from the end of your last break of two hours. Your next break can be either an 8 or a 2. You do not have to alternate 8/2 splits. Whatever it is, the hours between the last two breaks count against your available clock and, after subtracting them, you are left with your legal time, remembering the rules listed above.

You will not ever completely reset your 11/14 until you take another 10-hour break. All you are doing is pushing that time out. Even if you complete both halves of the split, time between the halves counts...plus the 2 if that's the part you just completed. The 2 does not count against you if you are adding up hours between the last two breaks and the first half is the two. You would begin adding from the end of the 2.

I have never had Swift, DOT, Prime or anybody else kick my logs back at me for not taking a pee break. I can pee in a cup in my sleeper and it counts toward sleeper time. There is no rule, written or otherwise that says what you may or may not do during sleeper berth time...only that you are in the sleeper. You could be dancing the Watusi for 8 hours as long as you do it in your sleeper berth.

There just isn't any easy way to explain it. Hope this helps.

 

ok im going to be the funny guy ,,,,,ha ha lol

how do ya split sleepr properly ,,,,,,,

my response is get a sawzall or chainsaw start at roof then go down back of sleeper and poof you have a split sleeper lol

 

i need some one to teach me to do a log book ,i want to know how to take a break n not in any rush burning up my drive time.

 

even if you can't use the DDL program where you work that was mentioned above, you could download the trial and play with awhile until you had it figured out in your head. OR you could purchase the lite version for a one time 50 buck fee and use it as a duplicate to keep your paper log legal

 

With this....Splitting the sleeper should be no problem....