Hi everybody.
I've got what might be a considered a strange request. My uncle, who's a retired trucker in Illinois said this might be the place where I can get a little help. I used to ride with him during some of all my summer vacations when I was a teenager. The best of times!
I'll try to keep this as short as I can. *I just reread this, It's not all that short.
When I was in the Army back in 1974 and stationed at Ft. Leonard Wood, MO., I was riding with a guy who lived 30 miles away from my hometown and we were on our way back to the base very late on a Sunday night. We had gone through St. Louis and were on Interstate 44. They had just repaved the road and it was black as it could be. No moon, no towns around so it as dark as a coal mine, his head lights weren't aimed too well and they pointed down about half way out where they were supposed to be. They hadn't painted the white stripes on either side of the road yet and the white center lines weren't the normal 12 foot long and about 30 feet apart distance. These were just temporary lines that were about 3 foot long (looked like white dots at 70 miles an hour) and were approximately 45-50 foot apart. I've never been on such a smooth, beautiful road before that was as dangerous as this one.
The guy driving was a terrible driver and bull headed as well. He would keep the car in the left lane the entire time. It didn't mess with the other traffic because there was none. Only saw 2 other cars in 50 miles. The problem with being in the left lane without any white lines on the sides and only those little white center strips was if the road curved to the right, the left side tires would go right to the edge of the road before he realized it and he'd have to jerk the wheel to stay on the pavement. I was a nervous wreck. I mentioned that it would probably be safer to straddle the little white center strip so if the road curved either way, he'd have a few extra feet to correct the direction of the car. I repeat, terrible driver, he wouldn't listen. I repeat, also bullheaded.
Somewhere in the extremely black countryside, we came upon a bridge. Sure enough, he headed right for it. Now normally, the highway department puts up those metal barriers so if you go off the road, the barrier will guide you back onto the road with a hard glancing blow. Big problem. They hadn't put up the barriers yet. We were only about 1 second away of hitting this massive concrete bridge head-on, it would have hit directly in front of the driver even if he turned the wheel. At 70 mph, we would have both been goners. About a half second before we hit and I was mid steam in a long and very loud list of swear words, the front tire went down into a large pothole hitting the left side of the wall of the pothole. It threw the front of the car to the right just enough for the front to clear the bridge but he sideswiped the bridge for at least 100 yards before he could pull it to the right. With the car scraping the concrete, the sparks lit up the countryside for 150 yards. The interior of the car looked like it was daytime out, only with a beautiful gold tint to everything.
This bridge was slanted downhill, at least at a 3 degree slope. About 250 yards down the hill, there was a car parked on the shoulder of the road; 2 guys taking a leak. They came back to our car, which now had 2 flat tires on the left, and their eyes were huge. (Probably not as big as ours!) They couldn't believe the whole show that we had just put on. They said the sparks went at least 50-60 feet in the air and 50 feet from front to back and it just kept sparkling like a golden rainbow. They backed their car up so we could see the damage with their headlights. The driver had to get out of my door because his had been welded shut by the accident. At the bottom of the bridge, which most bridges have is a section of concrete that is about a foot tall and sticks out towards the traffic about 10 inches or so. The car had smashed against this bottom part and it had scrapped the car body all the way into the frame.
The two guys took us and 1 of the tires to the next town so we could get a new tire to go with our spare. Got a ride with a truck driver back to the car. Got back to the base around 6am. NEVER rode with him again.
All that and I'm finally getting to the point. If any of you are driving Interstate 44 from St. Louis, going west, can you please tell me the mile marker where there is a long bridge, going downhill. We we hit it, the concrete was, I believe, about 5 foot tall or more. Maybe they put in a new bridge since then with lower sides. But what they couldn't have changed is the contour of the land, at least I don't think they would have. I'm pretty sure that it was at least 45 miles west of St. Louis, but I don't know for sure.
I'd appreciate any help. I tried using Google Earth for about 8 hours and never found it.
Thanks and safe trucking to all,
Abe Linkun
Interstate 44, between St. Louis and St. Roberts - Near Death expirence
Discussion in 'Road Stories' started by abelinkun, May 2, 2013.
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I'm new to the forum (my 2nd post vs your 1st... lol) but usually pretty good at tracking locations down. Do you recall, being as it was a concrete-walled "bridge", what it was "bridged over and/or around"?? Any river or waterway? Or like an "overpass over another roadway/railway" type bridge? BTW, I'm in IL, albeit the N/E quadrant.
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Thanks for the reply, KW.
Part of the problem about knowing what it was over was that the night was BLACK.
From what I can remember, the bridge was concrete-walled, at least next to the left lane. To tell you the truth, we were so busy watching the bridge coming straight at the front of the car, that the wall of the bridge on the right hand side could have been made out of popcorn and candy canes.
I don't think that it was over a railroad or roadway. I think, and here's where it gets a little fuzzy, the left side bridge was longer than the right hand bridge. It's like underneath the first part of the bridge there was a river (just guessing) and underneath the rest of the left side there was a swamp or at least a lowland. Perhaps the bridge was partially built on a hillside.
The bridge wall itself was, I think, from 5 foot to 6 foot tall.
I think it was somewhere between St Clair to Cuba. 40 years have sure made it hard to remember the parts that were incidental to the near wreck.
Hope this helps you.
BTW. My uncle used to drive a gas tanker out of Ashkum, IL. I took a lot of trips with him up to LaPort Indiana and other refineries near Chicago.
Thanks again,
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Ok,, gotcha. I'm sure you kinda know this already, but realize that the "way it was" back 39 years ago is now gonna look vastly different than it appears in today's times. I've looked back at some locations/structures of my own "unforgettable & life-altering incidents" from 20-40 years ago, and wow, even tho I knew each to be the exact spot, even then I had a hard time recognizing each, due to the vast changes. I'd be willin to bet the original concrete bridge wall(s) have now been "modernized" with a different layout, or Jersey barrier styled. That said... I still searched Google map, using combinations of road map, terrain view, satellite view (with diff zoom levels), and finally "street view" on suspected locations. Street view actually allows you to very slowly "drive it" and "see it"...
just as if you're toolin down the highway looking out the windshield.
Here's a few spots to look at, tho I'm just throwin darts & rollin dice:
Fenton, MO (mm 275-276), over Meramec River OR near Eureka, MO (mm 266) over Meramec River (river crosses I-44 twice)
Union/Jefferson City Exit (mm 247) over the Bourbeuse River
Good thing about Google maps is the it tags the mile markers (mm) on map view with green tags (at certain zoom levels). Then you can use street view to "drive past" each mile marker!
Check them out,, even tho it's a long shot. Hope it helps.
BTW, hope your uncle didn't drive a 1955 Pete tanker around, followin' a red 71 Plymouth Valiant driven by Dennis Weaver. If you're not sure... just "Ashkum". lol
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Thanks again, KW.
Looks like I'll be driving my Google down I-44 this weekend.
I already had an idea about the lack of a cement-walled bridge with all the modernization that's gone on through the years. But the layout of the bridge itself, should be fairly close to what it was. It went downhill at a 3-5 % grade so they would have had to do some MAJOR changing of the landscape.
The term "1955 Pete tanker" doesn't ring a bell, but I'll ask him when I call him this weekend.
Thanks again for all your help.
Be safe,
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I believe there were more grades of that nature a bit more east (east of Eureka, maybe?). I saw some that were pretty obvious while in street view, but forgot exactly where.
On the 1955 Peterbilt Tanker... lol... I was referencing a classic trucker suspense movie called "Duel", filmed in 1971 with actor Dennis Weaver. (it was also one of director Steven Spielberg's early TV films). It's a "must see" if ya haven't already. Duel (Wikipedia link)
Good luck & best to ya,
KWabelinkun Thanks this. -
I hope someday, I can say, "Eureka. I've found it."
"DUEL"!!!!! One of the greatest TV movies ever made! To this day, it's one of the most memorable movies I've ever watched. It showed the world how much of a genius Spielberg was. It had my sphincter so clamped shut, I couldn't go to the bathroom for a week!
I'm going to try (this ought to be a headache and a half) to contact an engineer in Missouri who is in charge of checking the bridges on I-44. Somewhere, somebody has the information on which construction firm built the new bridges and maybe, they will have pictures (Yeah, I'm probably dreaming here.) or at least some facts on where and the type of construction of the old bridge.
I don't really need it for my story, I just want it. (It's just me being too anal.)
Take care,
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Ran across this. Too bad the perp stopped at Rolla and didn't go further east toward St Louis. You'd have a quick way of viewing all of I-44 if he had.
I-44 Pursuitabelinkun Thanks this. -
There's the Big Piney River at the 165 but that's near Ft. Leonardwood. Devils Elbow, MO will get you close on Google maps.
Do you remember how long it took to get back to the base after the wreck? The problem identifying by the railings is many have been replaced with short concrete barriers over the years.
The next bridge is at the 173. Newburg, MO
Then 266.5 Eureka, MO over the Meramec River is the steepest grade.
That's some weird stuff at the Eureka bridge. Zoom out to about 1000' and look at them stars and circles in the woods on Google satellite. Space invaders?abelinkun Thanks this. -
WOW!!! What a chase. There was a bridge at 3:20 that sort of looked like it, slight downgrade, but it's not long enough. I didn't see exactly what I was looking for but thanks for the heads-up. I wonder what happened to the suspect.
Thanks again.
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