Is buying used the best Option?

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Cw5110, Apr 27, 2016.

  1. Retired2015

    Retired2015 Light Load Member

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    Replacing stuff on the outside of a diesel engine is not that big of a deal, its having to go inside the engine that can be problems. I have replaced turbos, air compressors, air governors and stuff like that sitting on the side of interstate highways or in truckstops.

    If you go used, try to find one thats recently been overhauled with the paperwork to show what was done. Everyone has their own preference, but Ive always had the best luck mechanically with a cat. They are a little more expensive to work on but if you get a good one, it will run forever. Ive driven a couple of cats that had over a million miles on them and they were still running strong- one had over a million and a half.

    People used to say those 12.7 Detroits were good on fuel mileage but the one I drove didnt get much better mileage than the Cat I had. It was used though.
     
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  3. daf105paccar

    daf105paccar Road Train Member

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    I get why People Push the older trucks but guys,come on,the OP has stated He knows nothing about working on trucks.
    The only ones who have been succesfull in starting a trucking firm with a older truck where the ones who worked on it themselves.
     
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  4. mc8541ss

    mc8541ss Road Train Member

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    If I were in your shoes with no bills or major responsibilities, and a couple years of experience, and hopefully a little bit of business experience. I would buy the Pete 389 with a 6nz cat from Fitzgerald. You are still young and with no family responsibilities can afford to do whatever it takes to make it work. All of that would be depending on you even being able to get the loan. When I purchased my glider GE wanted 10% interest, I was at about 780 on my credit score and had been in business for 8 years when I bought it. They approved the loan right away but thet was a no go for me because of the interest rate. I went to my bank (PNC) and it took them about 3 weeks to approve but got the loan for 4.85% interest. The down side to trying to get a good rate for you is you have no p&l statements or tax returns to show them that you can actually afford what your buying.
     
  5. Retired2015

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    I wasnt really pushing buying a used truck but Im kind of like MC. He doesnt have an established track record of owning a business so if they loan the money for a new truck, they are taking a chance of losing money on both accounts he would have with them (Car and Truck). Just not sure they would do it? Never know I guess til you try?

    Id have a good business plan and profit/loss projection drawn up when I talked to them. Might even be a good idea to talk to a couple of companies and get some kind of paper from them stating that they will lease his truck and what they will pay and what all deductions they would take from his settlements so he can create a realistic P/L statement.

    If he had all of that, it might improve his chances?
     
  6. Cw5110

    Cw5110 Heavy Load Member

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    I appreciate the feedback trust me i rather go pre emission. Ive had so many troubles with cummins detroit maxxforce and paccar with todays emmission standards. Even as a company driver it gave me headache to have too call a wrecker too pick me up again after i just left the dealer.

    Im aware of the schneider glider kits they have but my concern used to working with them is some of their trucks WERE NOT well maintained its kinda like playing russian roulette with their trucks. One of my friends bought one a year ago for another driver and had to already get a injector replacement.

    When i had did some research on it I also went threw rigdig too see why it was under a rebuilt title. I was thinking at first it was a glider kit than when i saw it was salvaged i figured thought too myself its not a truck i wouldnt want. It does still have warranty but wont last long. Have a look for yourself. I also have planned on getting a truck with owner op specs. I figured engine with 465-475hp 10-13spd with a locking diff, and 3.50 wheel ratio would be good.

    http://www.truckpaper.com/listings/...5/2014-freightliner-cascadia-125?OHID=6874975

    Ridgeline im taking the steps too learn before i buy. I really have no idea when i can purchase maybe within a few months or maybe till next year. I am just trying too figure out my options and still plan while i have time and then purchase a truck. So i believe you when you say its not like buying a car. Appreciate the advise.

    A pete would probally be way over the loan that i may be eligable for i looked one up and i figured the extra 30k im not sure if WF would want too cover. I also dont want to tap into what i have saved unless its for the downpayment on the loan.
     
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    Cw5110 Heavy Load Member

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    My car only has 4 payments left actually. I dont have a slight idea on P/L statements because im still researching threw some companies in terms of there pay package one of the reasons why i wasnt so sure how much baseplates and insurance and ifta cost would be.
     
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    Ill give you all an update once i run to the bank this friday and get a better estimate.
     
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  9. Retired2015

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    I hear ya. A lot of companies will furnish you a baseplate at no charge. Some will charge you for Cargo Insurance and Bobtail Insurance or let you get it through their company, Most Ive leased to will take out fuel tax on you based on state by state mileages and fuel purchased in each state. That will vary depending on where you run and how you buy fuel.

    Thats why I say it would be a good idea to talk to a couple of companies and find out their required deductions, it varies.
     
  10. spyder7723

    spyder7723 Road Train Member

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    May i suggest you pull your head out of your butt and instead of throwing your hands up worth the i don't know how mentality, just take a few minutes and look. Every single item on that truck (with the exception of some frame and body components) are held together with bolts, nuts, and screws. Using the air compressor as an example, just look at the air compressor on any truck, you will see bolts hold it on.
     
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  11. ExOTR

    ExOTR Windshield Chipper Extraordinaire

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    Schneider will follow a decent maintenance schedule, but unless you know the driver any used truck is a gamble on how it was treated/driven. An injector went out? That's it? I've seen trucks needing all new injectors and cups all the way around at 400k, it's luck of the draw. Brand new trucks occasionally eat a turbo, but going pre-emissions means you can do half of your own repairs watching YouTube videos.
     
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