Is every DM this big a jerk?

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by csmith1281, Aug 23, 2017.

  1. IluvCATS

    IluvCATS Road Train Member

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    Your first year is for getting experience. Don't do anything rash like yell or threaten. Just look ahead and know you will be in a different company soon.
     
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  3. Dave_in_AZ

    Dave_in_AZ Road Train Member

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    I would ask first what is your long term goal / plan?

    You mentioned wife and baby. Those are two things that can increase the stress on an OTR drivers mind.

    Do you plan on staying OTR?
    OR
    Would you rather work something locally so you can be home at night?

    The first year your pretty dog meat where ever you go.
    Companies don't like it much at hiring time if they see you jump around.

    You can make excellent money as a local driver, and be with your family.
    Stay where your at for a year. Everyone likes that when you'll be looking at moving to a real company. Try to get on at a teamster outfit. You gotta put in your time no matter what, even when you get in a good place, your the FNG, your gonna eat some dirt.

    Just work hard, and keep your eye on the prize. Bad days are gonna happen no matter what.
    Get out of the truck. Move around, get some air, it will be much better than that DM weighing squarely on your forehead.

    Where do you want to be in 3 years? In 10?

    Fail to plan = plan to fail.

    Good luck.
     
  4. Ridgeline

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    well you're right I don't, I don't tolerate this crap from any company for any driver - you know my position on this.

    However this crap is the attitude that permeates the industry as you said by someone somewhere, that's pretty much my point - not worded well I will admit that.

    If it isn't the DM, then it is the dispatcher, if it isn't the dispatcher, then it is the shipper or the clown on the fuel desk, it is the same all over - welcome to trucking.

    I had customers when I was driving temp who would make it my problem when it was theirs, so I get the OP's position. However if to expect everyone to be as nice as his DM and get use to not reacting to the BS they throw, you become a better person in this industry, don't you agree?
     
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  5. csmith1281

    csmith1281 Medium Load Member

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    I have spoken with several drivers in the fuel lanes and in the parking lots. All of them say without hesitation basically the same thing: "they keep me busy, they pay me well, they treat me right." If I get that response from several unrelated people who have no vested interest and lying to me, it's as good a sign as I could hope for.
     
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  6. White Dog

    White Dog Road Train Member

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    Yes
     
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  7. Lepton1

    Lepton1 Road Train Member

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    ^^^ THIS ^^^

    My way of saying it is "Have a Plan. Work the Plan".

    OP I worked at Swift for two years, with a great DM. Now I work for an outstanding company as an owner operator and the dispatchers know me by name and they are great.

    Here's the bottom line: #### HAPPENS.

    It MIGHT be the fault of dispatch, or planners, or sales, or customer service in your company; but most often it seems to be wrong or incomplete information from your shipper or receiver. Stuff happens. At Swift it was often an act of God to be compensated for detention or added miles when trying to find the correct location. I "fondly" remember hunting half a day to find an empty trailer at Swift. I learned NEVER to move the truck without first getting Qualcomm directions to a location, otherwise you don't get paid for those miles.

    There will ALWAYS be good days, great days, and horrible days. Roll with it. BUT always make sure to look at the bigger picture, be customer focused, and make an effort to learn as much as you can about your customers and how your office does things. Take time to ask your dispatch and planners how they function and what it takes to keep your wheels turning.

    With my current gig I know that dispatch FREQUENTLY does not have complete information when I need to start rolling. "I need you to start driving to Horntown right away. I will send you details as soon as I get them". That's the nature of expedited service....

    ...and I just got a dispatch with words to that effect. Go figure. Gotta go to work.
     
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  8. csmith1281

    csmith1281 Medium Load Member

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    I definitely believe in having my sights set on something long-term, but I'm more of a one step at a time guy now. Life experience has taught me so much. But if I were in a business meeting asking to borrow money, I would say my plan in three years is to own my own truck, learn how to run the snot out of the thing profitably, then expand from there very slowly until I know I know how to do this thing right, then expand at a moderate pace making sure not to grow my fleet faster than my infrastructure and financial health will allow. That is one big reason I have stuck it out here. I know the value of starting from the bottom, and I know the value of knowing how I do NOT want to treat my future employees. I know things will get better in a year or two, and especially once I own my own truck. I run my truck like a hypothetical owner operator truck and I study the numbers every week. I'm not getting into any fleece purchase deal. I'm going to work and save until I have enough experience, education, and cash to get a good deal on a truck with low overhead. If getting #### on for a few months is what it takes to get a good start, then I'll consider it fertilizer for my growth. I just wanted to know if it's really going to be like this everywhere or if I have the grass is greener syndrome. How many of us would want to ride an airplane if we experienced heavy turbulence the whole time? Probably not a lot of us. I can put up with it for a while, but there's got to be some kind of norm that is livable, decent, and doesn't require me to make financial and health sacrifices to cover my employers mistakes.
     
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  9. dca

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    If you head on over, I sincerely hope Crete meets your expectations.

    best of luck
     
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  10. csmith1281

    csmith1281 Medium Load Member

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    I hope so too… Do you work for Crete? Even if things were exactly the same there as they are at swift, here's my thinking: Crete will pay me more than Swift does, and they will allow me to have my children with me in the truck at the age of five. My oldest is nine, so I'd be waiting three more years to take any of my kids at all in a Swift truck. Those two things make a ####ty situation a lot more livable. But, a company that is just as old as Swift, is debt-free, and has not chosen to go public and biggerize itself to the max… Now there's a group of people that have their heads screwed on straight. Quality over quantity. I bet Crete makes as much or more net income than Knight or Swift. No company owned and operated by humans is perfect, but I definitely want to try to find the least imperfect group of people to work with that I can.
     
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  11. x1Heavy

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    No one barks at you to take a 8/2 or any of that. the DM has issues with you. And frankly it's best you find another company before something is engineered to get you out of this outfit's hair one way or another.

    Forget the running around, that pay is not going to happen. When you have a load that no one knows what to do with correctly the whole thing can make you want to quit the company and move down to another.

    Why don't you?

    You wrote a very large paragraph filled with many small things. I realized this load is a mess and once you get rid of it, make sure you don't get involved like that again. The bills has to match.

    The DM is not your friend here. You will want to move along finding someone else to run for.
     
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